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Dana P.
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My bike seems to be leaning more then before.I think that bolt that pivots along with the side stand is about to break.How many you's has this happened to on the 12's and did ya catch it before it broke??
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

pull it out and look at it.
might be all the posing with that beautiful paint!
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Dana P.
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Jermey,but I almost positive its on its way out.I know a few have had problems just wondering how many.Is it going to be on going problem??
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they had a prob with 03's.
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Odie
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana, fix it now!!! Mine did the same thing. If you replace with stock parts it will just happen again. I used 2 grade 8 bolts, welded one on top of the other and cut the top one short to make it fit under the primary cover. It's been a month plus and no problems. I'm gonna take it off and finish it up nice and neat and paint or powder it now that I know it's going to work out good. It was no fun to walk into the garage and see the bike leaning against the wall!!! Odie
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Dana P.
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Odie thanks I'm gonna do something real quick.I don't trust it now so its sitting on the pitbull rear stand right now.
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Odie
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Smart move. If you need any ideas, help, etc. drop me a line. Odie
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Johnb
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana, fyi, Pwnzor added these comments to Odie's recommended fix back in September:
here is the official diagnosis (in my opinion):
Running the bike while it is on the side stand causes the bolt to slowly back out of the hole, causing the bolt to shear off at the shoulder. Mine fell over while I was warming it up and my stand was also bent when this happened. When I retrieved the broken piece from the hole I could see absolutely no evidence of any thread locking material.
My solution:
I ordered 2 bolts, one to install and the other I carry on the bike at all times. I installed the new bolt using a generous portion of RED threadlocker. This was after I spent about 45 minutes pounding the actual stand back into shape. It's been over a year now, and I check the bolt regularly. No sign of it backing out, its right where I put it.
Something else you might want to consider: Repeat the threadlock procedure for your shift linkage. Get some spare shifter linkage bolts and carry those also.
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Dana P.
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John I don't see any signs of them backing out. They are very tight actually.
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Odie
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine wasn't backing out either. It was just plum wore thru the bolt and broke. That's why I say if you replace with stock parts it will happen again. Luckily the wall caught it with no damage at all. Very lucky.
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Johnb
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hi dana/odie, ok you've got my curiousity going, are we talking about bolts #11+19(pivot) right?:


(Message edited by johnb on October 24, 2005)
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Odie
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnb- #11 and #19 but they are one bolt/piece on an '04 12S/R.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 12:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

some of them did have a recall, give me ur VIN and i can look it up.
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Johnb
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 01:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rageonthedl, dana's got a '04 xb12s, i think the kickstand recall/bulletin was only for a short production run of '03 bikes - good stands are supposed to have an 'R' stamped on the baseplate somewhere - heard of these breaking too. in any case, odie's got the right idea; but, welding's not an option for many. either something's loose, worn, or breaking on dana's bike.. wonder what it is and what an 'easy' permanent fix is. haven't heard about '05/'06 xb's or uly stands failing - was there a design change?
kickstand xb9r'03

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Rageonthedl
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah i know that he has an 04 but their are more than just that one recall (did not remember what years they were for off the top of my head).....

B-060 Safety Recall Code 0830 - Sidestand
Pivot Bolt For 2005 Firebolt XB12R And
Lightning XB12S, XB9SX

B-052 Safety Recall Code 0826 - Sidestand Leg
For 2003 Lightning XB9SL

B-048 Safety Recall Code 0825 - Sidestand Leg
for 2003 Firebolt XB9R

B-047 Product Program BP8 - Sidestand Leg For
2003 Model Firebolt (XB9R)
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rage could you check for sure?? The only recall I got by mail anyways was the horn wire recall that I discovered and fixed at 200 miles or so. Wonder why they haven't informed me or others about this possible failure?? Maybe its a bulletin hey what a way to find out though.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana, the recall for the sidestand was only for certain XB's due to the bolt being the wrong size which could have caused it not to kick back up if your rode off without kicking it up yourself.
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Rageonthedl
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah Dana i can run the VIN if you would like but Contract2 is right about the bolt being to short. but if you want me to do it PM me your VIN
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Gearhead
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've got an '04 12R and the recall is not for these bikes. Mine broke while on a road trip in Arkansas this summer. We stopped to buy gas, I put the kickstand out and it just came apart!

Fortunately for me I caught it, no damage. I picked up all the pieces, (notice the post above) got back to the hotel and with some helpful locals aquired a standard bolt, nut and some locktight which worked great until I got home a 1000 miles later.

I replaced it with the factory piece which lasted 15,000 miles originally. So just like most Buellers, this is a bolt I check from time to time.
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