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T9r
Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Skate board wheels 48mm (black) ebay $8.99(set of 4).
3/16" threaded rod from Home Depot (stainless steel best).
3/16" threaded rod zinc connectors.
3/16" x 1.5" stainless steel allen head bolt $3.50ea.
Stainless steel washers $0.20ea from West Marine had to modify to fit inside of skate wheel w/ 3/16 bolt.
Loctite.
A couple hours later....






After visiting West Marine I thought of another idea. They had stainless steel cap screws $3.50ea , one smaller diameter than 3/16. Then use stainless steel rod of that diameter from Home Depot.

Stainless steel would be best in this application as I found rust buildup on the zinc hardware inside the axle.
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Buelltroll
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They end up fading,It's why I took mine off over a year ago after only having them on for a few weeks.
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Be very careful using skateboard wheels as sliders. A lot of the supermoto guys over here used them to start with, but found that instead of sliding they dig in and grip the road, which can lead to more damage being done by spinning the bike round or even flipping it.
Better to use the alloy or hard plastic (Delrin?) type sliders in my opinion.

(Message edited by trojan on September 23, 2005)
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T9r
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 07:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On mine the Stainless steel bolt that runs thru the middle will get most of the action when grinding down, if it were to go sliding.

The previous owner dropped the bike and it scratched up the rear swingarm, if these had been on, that surface damage would of not occured.

Trojan, that's for the advice, I understand and agree.
Troll, I didn't think about that, we'll see what I have to do to keep them looking black longer
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T9r
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can I get a set of 4 Delrin, or other metal sliders for around $10 that have similar dimentions as the skateboard wheels?
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Spatten1
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 07:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I bought solid stainless cabinet knobs at Home Depot and tapped them for 1/4 threaded rod. They were about $5 a piece. They are very thick. Got the idea from someone on the board.
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T9r
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rubber frame sliders that Buell sells are not Delrin, but a softer rubber.
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Rubberdown
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I spent over $100 on my "bought" sliders"
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Trojan
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rubber frame sliders that Buell sells are not Delrin, but a softer rubber.

Not sure if they are soft rubber all the way through, as Buell has apparently got a patent on them they may be some sort of new fangles material. Personally I'm not convinced by the frame pucks simply because they don't seem to have enough surface area glued to the frame to stay on in a slide. I haven't tested them though so I may be wrong.
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've seen pictures from such a "frame slider test" here on Badweb. Sliders worked great. They're not plastic all the way through; only a thin outer layer enclosing a styrofoam type crushable, impact absorbing material. Like a helmet, they're single use items. Sacrifice themselves for the better of the bike : )

Henrik

(Message edited by Henrik on September 23, 2005)
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Aldaytona
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

T9r, What happened to your "rocketbracket" aluminum sliders? They looked great on your bike and I am thinking about making a set now. I had purchased the "darkhorse" sliders which by the way are 1st class but someone else seemed to like them even more than me (but that's another story and it needs a violin playing in the background to be truly effective). Stopped looking for other XBs with "darkhorse" sliders, hell, haven't seem many XBs anyway.
Thanks, Al
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I made a matched set of sliders & bar ends yesterday out of some scrap titanium for my new SS. Should give quite a show if I ever go down, God forbid.

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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=32777&post=500873#POS T500873

They completely protected the frame of a track bike that went down at 80mph and over rumble strips. Thats pretty impressive.
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T9r
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aldaytona,

The powder coat finish on them was starting to come off. I wanted something with larger diameter as well. I'll keep searching for an inexpensive solution.

Just a word to the wise, when you cap off both ends of the axle and any moisture happens to get in there, anything that isn't stainless will RUST.

JERSEYguy,
Looks great!
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Skully
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a word to the wise, when you cap off both ends of the axle and any moisture happens to get in there, anything that isn't stainless will RUST.

Exactly why the Dark Horse Moto threaded portion is 18-8 stainless steel.

Keith
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Jcbikes
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jerseyguy - what are the diameter and length of those sliders. very nice!
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rear = 1.5" OD x 1" long.
Front = 1" OD x 1" long.
The pilot depth is .5" (I forget the diameters)
5/16 stainless rod, threaded on both ends holds them on.
They could be made from aluminum too.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wish i had some titanium (even scrap pieces)"just laying around". I have several projects for the race bike (after prototyping on my street bike of course) that it would be suitable for. Until some falls off of the delivery truck i'll just have to make do with the less exotic stuff I can get locally I guess. Some days I wish I was still doing aerospace prototype machining, unfortunately we weren't racing then.
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Jcbikes
Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

jerseyguy - pilot depth is how far they go inside, right. also, on the sides with the hex, anything special there? Thanks for the info...
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Davefla
Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 02:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jerseyguy- those are SWEET. The Ss ain't bad either- I like those wheels more every time I see them!
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Tenaciousb
Posted on Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 03:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took some advise on this thread and instaled some cabinet knobs. hope these pics turn out ok, I have never done this beforeFrontRear
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T9r
Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Little to no fading going on with my skate wheel sliders. The bike has been riden pretty regularly and left out in the sun during the day while at work.
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