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Xb9robb
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone have any tips for a first timer adjusting the suspension settings on a 9r? Or is anyone maybe of the same size/build as me that could tell me where they are at? I am 5'5" and weigh 160lbs. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Cruisin
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The manual should help you out...

As for a comparison - no help here...just a tall fat guy ; ) The shop I picked my bike up at set it up according to the manual and it's been good (at least, I like to think so).
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Rsh
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See the knowledge vault, look under suspension

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/107725.html?1124896875
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

XB9robb, 5'11 165 over here and DaveS set me up according to the manual. No complaints! Run the suggested settings from your manual for a while, review the link provided by Rsh then go from there.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Once you have the basic setup down - (search for Higbee's tables posted in the Knowledge Vault) then you get into suspension tuning and dialing in. That's where you get into really subtle changes that can really pay off but you really do need a track or else a stretch of road you can ride over a number of times between making small changes (and only one change at a time)

I have some good articles that I put together from a few sources on setting up suspension - and tuning based on how the bike is responding. It's in a word document I could email if you are interested - email me at (cleverly disguised email) qedqed (at) verizon _dot_ net

I'll email it to you

... and congratulations on having the good sense to ask about suspension and handling before messing with the motor!
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Tq_freak
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

messing with the suspension kind of scares me a little bit. i haven't touched it since i bought mine in may. I think the bike handles amazingly as it is, should i not be so scared? i guess i can always go back to the settings i was at
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 02:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you do mess with it, I reccomend you keep a notebook to track your baseline settings, changes and make comments for later reference about feel and feedback. I also reccomend a book (I think there is a video too, not sure) Like suspension for mortals. I'm sure a google search will find it for you. Max McCalister is the author, however his company is not a badweb sponsor so I won't link it out of respect for our sponsors. I bet DaveS would be more than happy to order it for you though!
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Diablomichael
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I posted the same question back when I first joined this board. Riding around the issues is not the answer. I was given tips on riding from the board. Keep in mind I have road raced for going on 10 years.

The truth is this

Everybody likes it a little different . Michelin tires will help among others . Dunlop's seem to be part of the trouble for many . I would recommend starting with the suspension suggestion posted on Sprtrider.com. Very little adjustments will make big changes. I soon will re-adjust my suspension as I find the stock suspension way to soft. I will switch to the buell spring kit as soon as the race bike 1450 motor is done. The main thing to remember is you don't have to change much to get big results. If you feel like you have to adjust your riding style or are giving up anything in the corners the bike is set up wrong.


Michael Snell
Street Bike 2003 9R
Race Bike 2004 12R

Michael B. Snell
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See, I have a completely different philosophy... As does Michael Schumacher.

You set the bike up to be as fast as it's capable of being, then adjust your style to extract everything out of it that you can.
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Diablomichael
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No , we are on the same page. There are some things the Buells tend to do when not set up properly . Standing up under braking is one of them At the track there are corners the bike is superb and then there are turns I need to work around a few things.

Michael B. Snell
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Xb9robb
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the opinions on this. I don't feel real confident in corners with the stock set-up and needed some insight. I appreciate all the help! Have a great/safe holiday weekend all!
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Kootenay
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Robb, I'm close to your size and weight. I'm kinda new to the whole suspension tuning thing myself, but I found at first that if I used the setting the manual lists for "rough pavement" it helped, since my local roads are sometimes rough. However, changing tires (to Pirellis) made a big difference, and since that I've tightened the suspension back to close to the factory settings again.

The bike seems very sensitive to any stiffness in my body, and works better if I concentrate on keeping my hands light on the grips.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rob,
Bring it up anytime and I will help you with it.
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Admin
Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Will be moving this thread to the Knowledge Vault's "Suspension..." topic. Please in the future post all such tech related threads to the applicable KV topic.

Thanks for all your help in getting the ol' BadWeB organized.

BadWeB Custodians
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