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Jon_s
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me (Kevin?)if the EPA compliance lettering is retained on the bottom of the Drummer. I'm in a a weird situation having been charged ($151) for having a non-compliance pipe (Buell race) on the bike. The pipe actually states "For racing Use Only" and as a consequence I have no grounds to fight the ticket. Before any legal types jump in...this is in the province of Quebec; their laws are weird. I don't live in the province but need to drive through it. If I get pulled again, they can impound the bike.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Since the Drummer is louder than the Buell pipe, if you got pulled for noise, you'll get pulled again.
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Dagwood
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RUN FORREST RUN!!!!
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Scofflaw!
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Jon_s
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I realize that the Drummer is louder; that's not the issue. They don't test for sound but look only for a compliance label. Does Kevin retain the compliance stamping on the Drummer?
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Buellman39
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is still on the drummer
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Kds1
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon_s,
the labeling is left intact, and if you ask I will make you a twin chamber Drummer and it will be quieter than normal.....you can fly lower on the radar with the stealth Drummer....

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Jon_s
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin, that sounds interesting. When you say quieter than normal, I assume that you are refering to the regular Drummer. Would you want my original pipe (with exhaust valve) or the race pipe as a core? What am I looking at in terms of $$$ and turn around time. I might ride out the season (avoiding Quebec) and take care of this in the late fall.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, it you sent him the race pipe it would still have the "For race use only" on it.
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Jon_s
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're right...cheap drugs I guess
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Tatsu
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank God I live in Hawaii...only problem I would have with a loud pipe is the neighbors.
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Justice
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Jon,
I live in BC and I had Kevin do up a pipe for me last month. Sounds nice, not too loud.
Also, Keving left the "Drummer" badges off for me so it looks stock.
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Kds1
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jon,
Quieter than the Drummer original, let me know when you are interested and I'll build one and we can swap out....I can leave the badge off and it will look relatively stock appearing.....

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Cwby8383
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how much would this quieter version cost?
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Kds1
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same cost...$400
It's an extra step and a few more materials but it's an option if need be...

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Cwby8383
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that's a very interesting option. I have ridden off-road for many years and realize how detrimental loud exhausts are to motorcyclists rights to ride. should i stumble on $400 i'd hit you up.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think really loud bikes also hurt the street scene.

Kevin has the XBs dialed in very well, so you will basically be getting a custom quieter unit, with the same performance, at a very reasonable price.
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kevin old buddy, you are the man.

I ask you guys, what other muffler manufacturer out there will "make it your way"?

(Message edited by jerseyguy on August 19, 2005)
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Phantom5oh
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So the Quiet Drummer performs as well as the Loud Drummer???
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Kds1
Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Phantom,
The TFI settings for the 2 are almost the same so I would say performance is relatively equal....the quiet Drummer you refer to is the regular and it's not all that quiet....I can make a twin chamber Drummer that is quieter than the regular Drummer without changing the performance, just canceling more noise resonation....hope this helps explain....

Kevin
www.kdfab.com
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Walt
Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the twin chamber Drummer.

Previously, I had the Race muffler installed. I was not satisfied with the low end torque loss, and the reduced drivability with the Race muffler.

So, I started my quest to find an exhaust system that would return the low end torque and most importantly maintain drivability over the entire rpm range. Well, after reviewing many articles on several different mufflers, and so on, I decided to give Kevin a call.

After quizzing Kevin a bit about the Drummer and several other topics, I asked if it was possible to make a Drummer no louder than the Race muffler, he said he could.

The twin chamber Drummer has been on my bike for about 2 months, and it (imho) performs far superior than the race muffler. It has returned the low end torque, retained the high end pull, maintained drivability, and is quieter than the Race muffler.

The twin chamber Drummer has a unique sound, a deeper tone than the Race Muffler.
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