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Vegasbro
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My battery is not charging. I guess its the stator, as the voltmeter indicated the battery is same voltage with bike running as off. I searched the board but found nothing but a bwb bro said he thought he read somewhere on here about others with this problem. All help appreciated..How much for a new stator if not fixable?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine was fixed under warranty. Don't remember what it would have cost. That was almost 20thousand miles ago.
Do you smell burnt trans fluid?
If the battery isn't charging.
Check the simple first.
All cables nice and tight?
Regulator checks out?
Did you looks in the Knowledge Vault for some answers?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Vegasbro - Check out Reepicheep's electrical trouble shooting guide in the KV - solid gold info!

If you have not checked the output from the alternator you should do that. That will tell you if the problem is the stator or the voltage regulator.

Jack
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine's in the shop right now for the same trouble : (. Was in the shop just 3000 miles ago with a dead charging system.

Stator is around $130
Voltage regulator is about $80

Service manual has a bunch of troubleshooting tests to find the source of the trouble. Everything tested good on mine, I changed regulator, still doesn't charge. Hopefully the professionals can fix it, I have the Extended warranty till 2006.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stators (alternator) seems to be the thing that keeps going on these motors. I ought to modify the procedure to check that first...
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was told when I carried mine in to the dealer that the stator was the weak point for all Sportster engines.
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine's been in the shop since last Tuesday. They are still waiting for the stator to be shipped. I have 9600 miles on my bike.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anybody have experience with aftermarket bits? Doesn't Accel or somebody make one? The factory part is pretty expensive for a sub 20k mile part.
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Midknyte
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

around about how many (average) miles are these things failing?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine died at 20,000.
I'm thinking the one I have now will last longer.
Since they share the tranny oil, it may have something to do with the metal bits that go with breaking in the tranny.
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch, you be one smart mofo.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We'll soon test my theory, I'm getting close to 40,000.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

15,300 miles and 18,300 miles (jury is out on the cause).
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Mellow_yellow
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you think that changing the tranny oil often would help the stator live longer? Using synthetics?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Won't hurt.
I've used synthetics since I hit 500 miles, in the tranny and engine.
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I made the switch at 500 miles as well. Nevertheless, I am bikeless after 8 days now. They say the part is definitely arriving manana.
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Fdl3
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine went out right at the 20K mark on my 03 XB9R.
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Tatsu
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Around 18,000 on mine. You will know if it's a stator, open the primary inspection cover and if you gag from the smell it's the stator.
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


7800miles
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like like some type of high tech sewing machine. How'd that smell sir? Like poo?
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My whole house had the wonderful odor for a couple days after I took it apart.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Xb9jelly9s - Did you take the plate over the wires off yet? It looks heat discolored between the screws and I'm wondering if a short there lead to the overheated and fried windings. I read in the KV that shorts have been known to occur there.

I had the alternator off my M2 recently and smoothed the edges on that plate and put a gentle curve up and away from the wires on each side.

The plate does not put any clamping force on the wires, it just keeps them back out of the way. I was considering putting a short piece of oil resistant wire sheathing around the wires under the plate to provide just a little clamping force and some additional chafing protection. But in the end I did not do it.

Jack
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Xbjelly9s
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jack-This happened a few months ago and no I did not even see that but i still have the stator and the wires look fine. I'll be sure to smooth out the edges on that if I ever have it apart again.
Thanks,
Jeremy
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Benm2
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jelly,

Interested in getting rid of the old stator? Please let me know if you are.

Ben
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