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Wads2504
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am Getting ready to change the Tires on my 2005 Firebolt and need to know how to properly remove the tires from the bike. Or the best way to remove front and back tires
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you have the service manual? It gives a good summary.

I just did my rear... Loosen pinch bolt, unthread axle 12 or so turns, loosen idle assembly, remove brake caliper, then remove rest of axle and remove wheel.

I think. Unless I forgot something critical. And I don't remember the torques, many suprised me. And there is at least one part in there where it is critical that you add anti-sieze onto during re-assembly. Do you really trust me to tell you which one?

Did I mention the manual? ; )
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Surveyor
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Reepicheep,
you've got the WHEELS off.....how about the tyres?
My 2cw....get the tyres taken off at a tyre depot, I don't think you'll ever break the seal with tyre irons without damaging the rims.
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Frausty12r
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow this has got to be THE most frequently asked question, is it in the F.A.Q's section of the forum? Do we even have a place for F.A.Q's? Hmm

I could go on about how to do it, but I know theres about 3 posts here that explain at length how to do it, what tools to use and the torque specs.

I'll throw in something just to validate the post, Make SURE, I mean SURE that when you re-install the axle, that you put some anti-seize lubricant on all mating surfaces.. i.e. the barreled ends of the axle and the threads. (so that next time you remove it, it'll come right off)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My Dayton ***BUELL*** dealer made me a smoking good deal on a Scorpion Sync, which they even had in stock, and mounted the thing for like $25. Go figure.

They earned every penny also. That rear did NOT want to go on, even with the machine. There might be something about the Scorpion Syncs that make them hard to get on... I know they are unusually light.

Hmmm. Come to think of it though, I never saw them balance it. :/ Oh well, it rides fine.
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Wads2504
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My plan is to get the tires off of the bike and take them to a pro to put on the new tires I just figured that with a motocycle jack and tools that I can handel the tire removal myself but the mounting will be done by a pro
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Rmp
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Terry, That's what I was trying to do. If you want to know what not to do, see the thread I started today about dropping my bike. Get the right equipment, tools, manual, etc. or take it to the dealer. (Don't have az it) Oh, And strap that puppy down by all means. You can't have it too secure. Rob

(Message edited by rmp on August 09, 2005)
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Fullpower
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use a 6 inch C-clamp, and a couple small "enduro" tire irons, like one would carry while desert racing. pretty inexpensive kit, have changed 4 rear and 3 front XB tires that way. use a 6 inch long block of wood under the muffler for a "stand". works great, cant beat the price.
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Kootenay
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took the time to remove all the belt guards, the rear brake caliper, loosened the axle 15 turns (like it says in the manual), removed the idler, removed the swingarm brace, and just pulled the belt straight off--then removed the axle and the wheel. No problems.

Did the tire change myself, took about the same amount of time as removal and installation of the wheels.
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Makenzie71
Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Braking the seal is easy if you have a bench-vise. I simply clamp the rubber down until the bead breaks. Then I use modified tire irons and pry bars (modified = wrapped in lots of tape) to pry the tire off.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The secret to getting tires off the rim is to get the bead up into the deepest part of the rim (clamping the sidewalls together will help with that) and to start using the irons 180 degrees away from that spot. Start with very small bites with the irons close together and you really need three irons, not two.

Have not done a Buell tire yet but I've repaired a lot of flats (with tubes) and changed a lot of tires.

My M2 is my first tubeless tire motorcycle, is it hard to get the beads to seat? Will a strap around the tire do it?

Jack
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Kootenay
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a pic of my home-made bead breaker:bead breaker
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Surveyor
Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would anyone go to this trouble......? Most dealers will fit tyres for about €5 each, as they can do it with the right equipment with minimal effort....there has to be a more productive way to spend time money and effort on your bikes.....beats me!!
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Kootenay
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Surveyor, since I live "out in the sticks," I have a limited choice of motorcycle dealers to choose from (and none of whom I'm going to trust to remove the wheels from my bike), and none of those are willing to do the job for the equivalent of 5 quid. Furthermore, I'd feel a bit uncomfortable walking in with some tires I'd just purchased on-line, and asking them to install them for me, when they've got tires for sale themselves (just none I want to buy!). Lastly, there is a certain feeling of satisfaction I get from doing pretty much all my own mechanical work...
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Dave
Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good setup Kootenay. I think I'm going to copy it.

Surveyor: My last trip to a HD dealer cost me $40 each with me bringing in the wheels off the bike and buying the tires from them. As a bonus they chipped the powder coating off both, and mounted the wrong tires. The less I have to do with a dealership the better off I am.

DAve
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Kootenay
Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 01:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, got all my info from this site. Step-by-step, everything I needed to know (and more!).
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