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Dilysi73
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well after 3 months I finally have my beloved 9s back home. I picked it up yesterday from H-D of Tampa, FL. Some might remember a buddy laid it down in Hawaii. I stopped by the dealer to see what was left and when I could pick the bike up. The service tech. told me they still need to install one bolt and wash it, so it would be another day. I said I'll install the bolt and wash it myself so I can get it now. Well the bolt that holds the shifter arm was bent when it was laid down. No prob I replaced it this morning and went for an 80 mile ride today. Everything is fine but the shifting is really hard( hard as in damn near breaking a toe when trying to shift while at idle) I cant go into N unless I blip the throttle and shift up at the same time. If the rpms are up it shifts smooth, at idle forget it. Any of you Buell gurus have any ideas what is up? I really REALLY, dont want to put it back in the shop for a while. Any help would be great!!

Thanks

Aaron
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check your primary fluid level...Sounds like may be too much fluid in there.
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ps too much can be as little as a quarter cup in volume
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Mou5e
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

at idle mine does not want to go into N very easy either. but it is not toe breaking. i always blip the throttle when i shift but i think that is just habit. if its that hard something prolly is wrong. try to reposition the shift lever a little higher up. that could make it easier to up shift. good luck.
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Buellj79
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

YOUR PRIMARY CHAIN NEEDS ADJUSTED
AND CHECK FLUID LEVEL. IF NEITHER OF THOSE FIX THE PROBLEM LET US KNOW
J
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most shifting problems are caused by an improperly adjusted clutch. However, all of the suggestions offered here are worth checking out.

Do you have a Buell XB service manual?

Keith
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I'd start by draining the oil from the primary. Prop the kick stand on a 2X4 and then when it stops draining, hold the bike level to get as much out as possible. Then add one full quart of M1 75-90 gear oil. That has always produced just the right level for me. The manual states that it should take a little less than one full quart, but they also don't recommend leveling the bike. I find that it works perfect every time.

After this is done, check the primary chain tension. There are two settings, one for hot, one for cold.

After that, adjust the clutch, the clutch lever and the cable.

I think all of this can be done with a small/medium crescent wrench, a T27 and a flat head screw driver. Wait, you'll need an allen that's of decent size as well when you adjust the primary tensioning shoe.

It's all pretty easy once you have the tools and the proper settings. The clutch is as easy as turning a screw in until it seats and then backing it out some number of turns as I recall... Pretty easy stuff : ).
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Xbolt12
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine is starting to grind a little on gear changes other than 1st to 2nd. I figure the clutch is just not disengaging enough due to a little too much free play. I'll let you know if that fixes it.

Also it could be the oil is done from hard riding on the Laguna Seca trip.

xbolt12
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Sped214
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How does one go about checking/adjusting the clutch?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get the manual : ).

You open the larger cover on the primary and turn the screw in until it seats, then back it off a certain amount. You also need to loosen the clutch cable.
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Tomd
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dil,

Is this the first time you rode it after you dropped it? How is the geometry of the shift levers? If it's incorrect, you may not have as much leverage shifting as you should have.

Another thing to check is if the shift shaft or lever pivot was bent when it was dropped.

Tom
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Dilysi73
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

tomd, yes this is the first week of riding since it went down. Shifting is fine at speed(rpms above 2500) at idle forget it. I have a bruse on my left foot now that went thru my boots. I losened the primary drive chain today and messed with that to no avail. the fluid level is as perfect as I can humanly get.1 qaurt M1 75-90. I'll adjust the clutch tomarow. I still have put 265 miles on her in the past 3 days tho!

Here is one funny thing I noticed today. I have a rear wheel stand and use it when I work on the bike. On the stand the bike shifts like a dream, I get happy put the bike down (thinking it's fixed) go for a short ride, Come back pissed. What gives? Any ideas?

Thanks for the help every one.

Aaron
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Njbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2005 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just had to replace a shifter drum on an xb12r that was doing the same thing...couldnt believe the shifter drum was made from such a soft aluminum.
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Mou5e
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you might want hd to check that shifter drum. i went down there the other day to talk to a tech and thats what he was fixing on an 04 12r. he showed me the bad drum and it was mangled pretty bad. njbuell your right about the soft aluminum!
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are the bushing thingys in the shifter lever?
Just wondering if the shifter lever itself is binding when you go to shift?
I am a check the little things first kind of guy.
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Dilysi73
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, good news! I adjusted the clutch this morning, that didn't fix it (yes I did it by the manual) then I adjusted the clutch cable. DAMN I FEEL LIKE A DUMB A%& !! Why didn't I think of that first? Well problem solved the bike shifts great now.

Thanks all for the help. This is just one of the reasons I love the BADWEB!!

Aaron
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 08:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glad you got it fixed!
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