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Davefla
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Funny, I was just posting on another subject that surely somebody would soon photoshop clip-ons & an 'S' tail onto an 'X'... now, I can watch to see who's first to put a Firebolt fairing & fender on a Ulysses!
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Buell12hundo
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

are the xbr frames different in any way? from the pics on the site couldn't tell
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Howieshotrods
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was actually thinking an X tail on an R would be the perfect replacement for the older S3T with the hard bags and trunk box. Not sure it will work though, looks like the frame has some differences.
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Hkwan
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went onto the Buell website to see if they outline the difference between the '05 and '06 Firebolt but don't see a summary there. I'm wondering where else I can see a summary like the one Spike posted up? I just want a little more detail, that's all.

For example, what material is the belt for '06 now?

Are all the airbox cover now comes with the vent slot by the gascap? Can it be retrofitted onto older model (2004) bikes?

Can the advantage on the new swingarm be quantified?
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Blaster_s
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From Buell's website in the news section:

Key Firebolt Upgrades for 2006
(see Buell lead release, New Ulysses and Lightning Long Lead Buell Line for 2006, for more details)

A new transmission features a “dog ring” design for quicker shifts with less effort. New helical gears reduce transmission noise, and the oil-change interval is extended to 10,000 miles from 5,000 miles. Clutch lever effort has been reduced by 15 percent on the XB9R and by 22 percent on the XB12R. A new drive belt is more durable than the previous belt.
A redesigned swingarm is stiffer and 0.56 pounds lighter than the previous design. The swingarm continues to also function as the oil reservoir, and the oil cap has been relocated and redesigned for easier access and opening. The inner fender and upper and lower belt guards have been restyled.
The engine air intake has been integrated with a wrap-around fuel cap cowling in the airbox cover, replacing the air duct that formerly passed through the frame. This change also enabled increased fuel capacity.
A durable new Goodyear Hibrex 135-tooth final drive belt with Flexten Plus technology requires no scheduled service or replacement.
Performance Through Technology
The Firebolt is designed around the Buell Trilogy of Technology design philosophy: frame rigidity, mass centralization and low unsprung weight. The massive, rigid aluminum frame doubles as a 3.8-gallon fuel cell, which helps lower the center of gravity and centralize mass. For the same reason, engine oil is stored in the aluminum swingarm, and the muffler is located below the engine. The Buell Zero Torsional Load (ZTL) front braking system mounts a single 375mm rotor near the wheel rim, gripped by a six-piston caliper. Braking forces are transmitted directly from the rim to the rotor, so torsional load through the spokes is virtually eliminated. This permits the use of a very lightweight wheel that also helps reduce steering inertia. ZTL and lightweight belt final drive contribute to a significant reduction in unsprung weight.
In many riding conditions, torque and a wide power band are often more functional than peak horsepower. The Buell Thunderstorm V-Twin engine delivers torque by the bucket-load. This 45-degree, air/oil/fan-cooled powertrain is also compact and narrow in profile. Buell DDFI II fuel injection delivers crisp throttle response in any riding situation. The Buell Uniplanar engine mounting system reduces vibration to the rider and enhances rigidity by incorporating the engine as a stressed member of the chassis.

The Firebolt wheelbase is just 52 inches and rake is a radical 21 degrees, with 83mm of trail, an aggressive chassis geometry that’s quick, but never twitchy. A Showa rear shock and 43mm Showa upside-down fork are fully adjustable for pre-load, compression and rebound damping. Low handlebars and rear-set pegs put the rider in a sporting position behind a compact fairing.

Buell Firebolt XB12R
The synthesis of brute power and track-tuned agility, the Firebolt XB12R puts 103 horsepower and 84 ft. lbs. of torque in its rider’s hand. The Buell InterActive Exhaust system utilizes a valve in the dualchamber muffler that is controlled by the ECM and adjusts exhaust flow according to riding conditions to smooth torque delivery and optimize engine power. It is available in Midnight Black, Racing Red or Thrust Blue with stunning Translucent Amber wheels and Graphite Gray frame.

Buell Firebolt XB12R features:
Buell Thunderstorm 1203 fuel-injected air/oil/fan-cooled V-Twin engine
103 peak hp, 84 ft. lbs. peak torque
Buell InterActive Exhaust
New transmission design
New Goodyear Hibrex drive belt with Flexten Plus technology
New lighter, stiffer swingarm design
New air intake location
Fuel-in-frame, oil-in-swingarm
43mm fully adjustable Showa upside-down fork
Fully adjustable Showa rear shock absorber
Buell ZTL front brake system
Translucent Amber wheels
Dropped handlebars
Fairing with projector-beam headlights and Amber windscreen


Buell Firebolt XB9R
The Buell Firebolt XB9R is a frisky middleweight ready to eat up the road. The quick-revving Thunderstorm 984 V-Twin delivers 92 horsepower and 70 ft. lbs. of torque in a smooth, broad powerband for a powerful drive out of the turns. It is available in Sunfire Yellow with Sky White wheels and a Fluid Silver frame.

Buell Firebolt XB9R features:
Buell Thunderstorm 984 fuel-injected air/oil/fan-cooled V-Twin engine
92 peak hp, 70 ft. lbs. peak torque
New transmission design
New Goodyear Hibrex drive belt with Flexten Plus technology
New lighter, stiffer swingarm design
New air intake location
Fuel-in-frame, oil-in-swingarm
New 43mm fully adjustable Showa upside-down fork
Fully adjustable Showa rear shock absorber
Buell ZTL front brake
Dropped handlebars
Fairing with projector-beam headlights and clear windscreen
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Hkwan
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you very much! Wondering if the new airbox cover for the 12R can be put onto 2004 models.

It is good that the 12R didn't get as much upgrade as the 12S. The resale value won't get knock down so much for the older R models.

Thanks once again.
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Kdan
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was really hoping the Blast would get a 12 motor in 06. And thinner tires.

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Pcmodeler
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the new swing arm design, but I could do without the god-awful belt guard.

Also, if they had wanted to make this 'R' owner happy, maybe they should have offered a full-fairing. Now that would kick.
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Hkwan
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree, the belt guard is definitely ugly. Looks like they want to cover the belt as much as possible so no rocks can fly into that area.

As for full fairing, yeah, they can offer that as an option. I personally like the current fairing, or the lack thereof. I like the engine components to be shown as much as possible.
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Jeremyh
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is my RANT:

HEY IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE STILL USING THE $5.99 BLINKERS!!! Good Job Erik!!! I will be using these blinkers on any of my bikes that need replacements....it sure beats 60 bucks a piece.
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Buells Rule!
(Dyna in disguise)

Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a question regarding the turn signals....why cant Buells have self cancelling turn signals?? They have em on sporties which cost less.
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Dbird29
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Auto cancelling turn signals would allow easy one finger salutes.
Buell want to promote polite ridership.
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Clown
Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got a chance to test ride the Ulysses at the Dealer Show yesterday. It will make a great touring bike. The pegs are 3 inches lower and the seat is pretty comfy. They did not let us take it off road. I was very tempted to take off across a really nice park in Colorado, but chickened out. I hope to have some at the shop soon so I can take out in the dirt and see how it performs.
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Buellerx
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My S2 had self cancelling signals. I hated them. They always turned "Off" before I wanted them to
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Starter
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 05:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a heads up. The current belt on my 04 XB9 only has 127 teeth.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My old FZR had self cancling turn signals. I wish Buell had them. I keep forgetting to turn them off.
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