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Davefla
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 09:56 pm: |
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I've just swapped my seriously rusted, 2300-mile 12R muffler for a 250-mile 12S unit from eBay (with a break to catch the MotoGP and AMA SB races, of course.) I'm wondering, how many of us who've modded or worked on our exhausts have followed the service manual's instruction to replace the front hanger and Torca clamp (header)? It sounds like a good idea, and it shouldn't be TOO expensive. But I'm wondering how much of it is due to the HDI Corporate Legal dept's influence, and how much is due to any real danger that I'll one day find myself trying to ride over the muffler and chin spoiler... I guess that begs another question: if you've put on an aftermarket pipe, did it come with new clamps? |
Jerzydevil
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 10:21 pm: |
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Um, not sure but I think from reading the posts, that is the clamp on wycked's bike that came loose and catapulted him like superman. If that is the case, I would definately change it. jd |
Davefla
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 10:30 pm: |
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Yep, Wyckedflesh's apparent 'fun' is part of what prompted this question. I haven't searched to see if he's made a longer post on it. Update: found pics and what not in the Storm Fronts / AZ Buellers archives. Hope things are coming back together for ya, Wycked! (Message edited by davefla on July 10, 2005) |
Midmofirebolt
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 11:29 pm: |
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The D&D's come with new clamps, front and back. I'd say better safe than sorry, go for new clamps. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2005 - 11:58 pm: |
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Firstly, the clamps that came apart on my bike were not the stock clamps. My exhaust was a custom fit job that had a different type of clamp fail. WRT the stock system, the clamps and bands that are used to hold the exhaust in place are all spring steel type of material that is ment to be torqued ONCE. Most of the clamp failures that have been reported have been from people reusing the clamps they just took off. A material that is not ment to be retorqued starts to weaken the moment tension is released. When you then retighten it, your basicaly trying to make it change the shape that it was in to a new shape. That further weakens it. Buy a new header clamp and a new set of exhaust bands. The money spent is worth more then the possible hospital stay. |
Davefla
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:11 am: |
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Thanks for responding, Mikel. Again, I hope things are getting back to normal for you. Are you rebuilding your scoot and/or have you posted on the progress? Back on topic, sort of- I took some pics of the (amazing amounts of) surface rust on my muffler, and will share when I've resized them. All I can figure is that I should've hand-washed it on New Years' Eve when I rode it to work and back (10 miles, round trip.) Seriously, I put on maybe 35 miles during the months when there'd be salt on the roads and temperatures would be too low to wash the bike. I'm surprised over the amount of rust I have on a year-old exhaust... Anyway, time for bed. Tomorrow, part numbers for the hanger/clamp! |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 12:25 am: |
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2" torca clamp S0127.8 (header) QTY 1 Muffler Strap Front S0116.02A8 QTY 1 Rear S0123.02A8 QTY 2 I am healing up, its a slow process that is just very frustrating. The bike is coming back together and I will post pics and update as soon as I get it a little farther along. Thanks for the well wishes, much appreciated |
Davefla
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 07:31 am: |
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Wycked, the best advice I can share is to try to leave the sadist (er, the physical therapist) frustrated and bored with his/her inability to come up with something you won't do without question. I've never been in your spot, but I did have fun with cutaneous delivery steroids for a rotator cuff injury a few years back. "No, that doesn't tingle or burn- go ahead and turn up the current to max." D&*$ed if I was gonna sit there for an extra ten minutes listening to this guy making grown-ups cry. And thanks again, you've saved me some time there! I haven't bought the parts book yet. |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 08:56 am: |
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parts book? hell, I took those off the boxes but the partsbook is a very sound investment PT doesn't bother me. There is only so much they can do to me as it is and well, I do more at home just trying to get the bike put back together. |
Jerzydevil
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 06:13 pm: |
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Sorry wycked, I just wanted ta point out that your clamp failed and he should buy a new one. Didn't know it wasnt stock, and wasn't sure if davefla knew about your crash. |
Fullpower
| Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 06:57 pm: |
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I have had my stock muffler off twice. have re-used the oem clamps. put on drummer, then removed it to cut off the hideous ly ugly chin fairing brackettry, and wire wheel and repaint. the chin fairing and associated brackets and harware came to 2 pounds 12 ounces. good F'in riddance. now i can change my oil without a damn torx wrench. any way back to the point of the thread: if you dont ham-fistedly over torque the clamps, they should live a long happy life, and should not magically become useless after a single application. |
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