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Illfixit
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

cameras suck ! i think you know why
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 07:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

See, that's the picture I was trying to get......


I had the same problem it took many tries before I got my shot.

Looking at your picture and mine you can see many clues that these are a totally BOGUS pictures.

1. The ground doesn't seem to be moving
2. You somehow manage to get the engine to spin up to that rpm in NEUTRAL and with NO OIL PRESSURE
3. You or I didn't fall off the bike trying a stunt like this (holding the throttle open with one hand while trying to take a STEADY picture with the other)

And somebody still fell for it, hook line and sinker!

Good job Spike!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just to continue to feed the off topic police... different cameras are better and worse as far as the lag between when you push the button, and when the image is captured. It is a VERY IMPORTANT point to consider when looking to buy a consumer digital camera.

My Nikon Coolpix 950 (which are pretty easy to come by for $400 or so either used or refurbished) will let you press the shutter button down half way to get a precalculated exposure and focus measurement, then will take the picture when you push it all the way down. In this mode, the time between press and capture is VERY short, probably less then a quarter second. It's "only" 2.1 megapixels, but thats enough for good looking 8x10's, and the nikon optics, controls, and exposure algorithims are world class.

Frankly, most of these newer generations of consumer digital cameras with 4 and 6 megapixels may have the resolution, but I don't believe they have the optics to support these higher pixel rates, and all you are doing is burning up memory to trade one distortion mode (pixelization) for another mode (optical lens defects).

A 2.1 MegaPixel camera can produce some exceptionally clear pictures, even at 8x10.

(hands in front of me waiting for the topic police to slap on the cuffs).

I will take my coolpix 950 with me today when I go to F&S Buell in Dayton to look at the Firebolt in person, and post a link to a full resolution photo :) (token attempt at being on topic).
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Shot_Gun
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got back from Brians HD/Buell. They have a whole day planned except for the Firebolt which sits in the show room.
Whith no firebolt to ride I didn't see much in staying there. I put in my name to win and they gave me a free "t" shirt so that was cool. Let me know about your experinces so I can dream some more.

SG
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got back from F&S Harley Buell in Dayton Ohio. They have T-Shirts, and were very friendly.

I am 6'2" with pretty long legs, and the firebolt is a GREAT fit, much better then I expected. A little more weight on my arms then my cyclone, but not nearly as much as I expected for such an small bike! I want one.... somebody go out and buy one fast, get bored with it, and sell it to me used!

Bill and the Bolt

Did I mention they were very friendly at F&S Harley? I have dealt with them a number of times for both parts and a minor repair, and they were great every time.

Ballons
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Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyboy going to Vallejo today,give me a call at the firehouse(707)648-4412.Come on by and say hi.Already took ride by with fire engine and filled out my winning entry and got free t-shirt.
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Firemanjim
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any body going to Vallejo for Slay the Dragon,give me a call at (707)648-4412 at the firehouse.Come on by and say hi.Took the fire engine by Vallejo this morning and filled out my WINNING entry and got my t-shirt.Blue Firebolt sure looks nice.Dustin said all 4 of their Firebolts are presold.I should have had the fire
marshal come on by and shut down the dealership
so all of you bums wouldn't be able to fill any entries out.(Just kidding).
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Turnagain
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BALLONS!? I didn't see no ballons!

did see this, though:
 Jose
José can you see -- directly behind you?
tough to, eh?

larger XB9R here (blue one), along with a couple other pics from today

Steve(2)
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

COOL!
Pictures of Steve and other DCBRAG demo riders are here
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José_Quiñones
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yep, the mirrors were useless!

I tried to take a picture of it, but this one doesn't show how bad it is when you ride it
mirrors

One other thing to keep in mind with this bike is to make sure that your shoelaces are short....
shoelace
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S2no1
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I thought you were supposed to ride with riding boot. NO LACES ALLOWED.


I also use a Nixon CoolPix. At basic resolution it can be quite quick, almost as quick as my antique Minolta 35mm SLR.

No demo rides in OKC, just some T-shirts and a entry form. About 100 entries today or so.

Arvel
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Jima4media
Posted on Saturday, April 27, 2002 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just got back from a tour of the San Francisco Bay area Buell dealers. 319 miles, 10 dealers, 8 T-Shirts, and one tired puppy.


Great introduction in my humble opinion.

I just wish the Firebolts were able to be riddin in California. Ahhhh well, just a while longer I guess.

Jim
X-2.5

Pictures over on SacBORG...
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jim: You know about the imagelink tag here don't ya? Or at least a direct link. I just don't have the time to troll like I'd like to. Would like to see your pics though.
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Shot_Gun
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Atleast I wasn't the only one that had to dream! The people at Brians HD/Buell were nice but I really had hoped to ride a firebolt. Oh well any one in the tri state area wanna give a demo? I'd pay a dollar for that!

SG
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Raymaines
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Would it be too weird to just remove the mirrors, plug the holes, and use bar-ends?
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Jima4media
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake,

Yes I can use the link feature of badweb, but it was too late last night to start fooling with it, and this morning I'm off to Sears Point for some vintage bike racing. Tomorrow afternoon perhaps.

Jim
X-2.5
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Smitty
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great pics sad to see some people missed out on the rides on sat.I went with a friend to ride a Ducai monster in the morning we were both thinking about them he is riding a Victory and I am riding a FZX700s (Fazer).For me the duck was ok not bad not good .We stopped on the way down to enter the contest and saw that Hannumms HD had demo rides .I rode the Firebolt.It fit me better than the duck rode better and handled better.I had a deposit on a X1 a year ago but things didnt work out maybe it was ment to be and the XB9R is the one.
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Two_Buells
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2002 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lancaster, Lebonon, Harrisburg all had Firebolt demos today. Gettysburg did not but you can make a appointment and take a demo ride during the week.
Jim you got me beat. I only got three t-shirts
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley puts new spin on Buell lineup. News article in today's Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.
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Other stuff:
I stopped in at Hal's for their preview show (and haven't caught up on my reading so this may be old news) on Saturday. Apparently the first demo rides of the day went fine, a Firebolt, a Blast, and two other Buells were used as demo-bikes. During the second group, someone dropped the XB in a slow corner. Rest of demo rides for the day were cancelled due to marginal weather (it only rained and was a little windy, hmmm, bummer). I got to look over the crashed XB in the back, minor damage, right mirror scraped a little, bar knob scrapped off/missing from the throttle end of the handlebar, some scraping on the brake pedal, a little scraping on the bottom corner of the rear swingarm and on the axle hex (tube, nut, bolt, axle, whatever you want to call it), and a slight smudge on the gas tank. It looked entirely ridable. Tire had some perpendicular scrapes/skidmarks on the side/edge of the tread looking like the bike probably spun out on some dirt in a corner under throttle and just wipped around and slid out and down from the looks of things. Short, light, tight, snappy bike, I can see how that could happen and catch someone unaware. Plus if you factor in the aspect of the bike having brand new tires with only a few hundred un-scrubbed miles, and a bit of humidity in the air, and crunch. Bummer I didn't get to ride it though.

Oh well, such is life.
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Sarodude
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slay the Lame Ass Buell Dealers...

Da Woman had been dying to go to Laughlin. We did. That meant I was gonna be MANY miles from a Buell dealership on the 27th.

Well, Saturday I rode from Laughlin to Vegas. Got the the dealership and not even a PICTURE of a Firebolt, a dragon, or an Erik Buell. I asked the guy behind the counter about the Dragon thing. Out came a pad with entry forms.

Loli and I filled one out each. The guy put 'em in a blue envelope. No hooplah, no enthusiasm. The only thing I found out was that their first XB was sold and delivered - over MSRP. Their subsequent units will also be sold over MSRP until production units become less scarce.

Matty - I wish I coulda entered in Glendale. Glendale (California) is a fine HD and Buell establishment.

On another note, the HD demo tent in Laughlin had an XB, X1, M2, and S3. Rode the X1 and the XB. Very different test ride than the Long Beach show. Lets just say that when a gaggle of VRods stretch their collective legs, it's nice to be at the back of the pack... The first time I rode the XB I was curious. The second time I was just smiling...

I couldn't get any info on the CARB debacle holding up the CA Bikes / ECMs...

-Saro
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Josh
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I entered in Glendale with Matty & company. Nice place. Watched some dyno runs, drank some soda, kicked some tires. I was with my wife and her uncle so we couldn't stay long buy Matty did give us a poloroid of us with the XB and 2 shirts.

So whe I win the STD (does that sound right?) do get to pick it up in Glendale?

Josh
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Jima4media
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Saro,

Do you know the interesting thing about my ride around the bay visiting 10 Buell dealers. Not one asked me if I was interested in buying a Firebolt.

Pretty pathetic. That is Harley salesmanship for you. Rule #1 in sales - ask for the order!

I do have to mention that Modesto had taken the initiative, and put me on a list of people that would probably want one, LAST JULY! When I called them to get on the list, I was already there. They stopped writing down names when they got to 25, knowing they will only get less than a dozen XBs this year.

When I went into the Modesto store on Saturday, they had the most activity, the best merchandising, the most enthusiasm, free food and drinks, and they were doing dyno runs in the parking lot. Danny mentioned to me that my name was still at the top of the list.

Now we just have to wait...

Jim
X-2.5
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Peter
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sitting here in Amsterdam, looking at my view out the window of apartments, and I'm very aware that this is not where I want to be, so my thoughts start to wander and I wonder to myself, "If I was able to scam my way into America somehow, how much would it cost a bank to set me up in a Buell dealership?"
Does anyone know what the criteria is from Buell/HD in so far as workshop/display area, dollars/size etc? Just to satisfy my curiosity for now.....
PPiA
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Oldman
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well at least i know i got jim(x-2.5) beat on the miles. almost 400 by the time i got back to leesburg on saturday, only hit 6 dealers around home though. should have tried to hit orlando to. funny thing was, two dealers owned and operated by same people did different things with the shirts. one gave away to customers and other gave away to employees. obviously doesn't have there shit together. asked the one about why no shirt salesman didn't know, went to find out why came back and said because so many dealers wanted to be involved didn't get sent enough shirts to pass out then started telling other salesman about price differences around area so he was good enough to call over the G.M. of three stores total, and said he would look into it. have to wonder if this is one of those stores that don't care if they sell a buell or not. from the time i left leesburg till i got back i got questioned about the buell a half dozen times and got to express my opinion about them. bottom line would like to pay off my m2 and have a fb in the garage, plus i would rather see other people on a buell than on a eurobike of any type. unless someone comes in just to look at a buell, do any of these dealers really try to sway the general bike buyer over to the buell or just hoping that they might sell themselves. the one thing one of the saleman at a dealer said was that there already coming out with the 1200 kit for the fb, and if so does that mean that you will get 1\5th more hp if your lucky.
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Oldman
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

p.s. peter, before your post got posted before me i was thinking the same thing except how to get to america, what do you think of florida?
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter,
That very issue was discussed, numbers posted and all, not too long ago. Should still be current on the board here someplace.

I'm thinking that if you could sell the H-D legal department on opening up in a "bad dealership" location, you should have desparate customers waiting for you to open. If the current dealerships in those areas are not currently serving their customer's needs, then they IMHO should not have any reason to complain when you open up shop.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter,
We have seen pics of your co-workers. I have one question for you......


ARE YOU INSANE!!!!
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Oldman
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mikej can you give me an idea where to look maybe, didn't notice anything under quickboard. thanks neil
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Mikej
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oldman,

I know it was discussed here, but multiple searches found nothing. So's I wandered over to the H-D corp site and rummaged around there some and found "Become a dealer". Find a comfy chair first though, and put your wallet in the dresser drawer.

Click this link, then click the link on the right side for "Investment Requirements" for some particulars.
=== begin quote ===
A new dealer with 160 motorcycles is required to have at least a 20,000 sq. ft. facility. Based on Harley-Davidson Motor Company's current investment requirements, the new dealer would need to have, at a minimum, the following financial resources:

Operating Cash $200,000
Parts, Accessories, MotorClothes Order $400,000
Special Tools & Service Equipment $100,000
Dealer Management System $50,000
Interior Fixtures, Plans, Permits $145,000
Exterior Signage $5,000
Total Minimum Resources $900,000

Please note: The above example is an estimate for the internal operation costs of a new dealership location and does not include facility costs (either the purchase or lease of an existing or new facility which meets Harley-Davidson Motor Company's Facility requirements). Facility costs can be significant, but due to the variation of property and construction costs across the country, we are unable to provide general guidelines.

The investment requirements outlined above are only an example. Actual investment requirements will vary, predicated on many factors, including market size and facility costs. Each dealership opportunity is unique and you should not rely upon the above example in making a decision to become a Harley-Davidson dealer.
=== end quote ===

Hope this helps some.
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Peter
Posted on Monday, April 29, 2002 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

160 BIKES????
How many dealers have 160 bikes for sale in America? I've never seen that many in Australia or Europe, and I went to a dealer in Colorado with Aaron, and unless I'm blind, they didn't have anywhere near 160 bikes for sale there either.
The other thing is that I'd only be interested in a straight Buell dealership, not a Buell/H/D combination. Might be a bit cheaper methinks.

Oldman,
Florida? I know it has Pammy, but does it also have mountains? I need mountains. There are no mountains in Holland. It would also need to be a long way from Modesto Buell. Where are they situated?

Dan,


PPiA
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