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Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:32 am: | 
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What is the old adage? How fast you want to go is directly proportionate to the size of your wallet. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:34 am: |
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I agree as far as shaft versus anything else the shaft drive will win out in smoothness and lower maintenance costs. I actually heard of one guy designing a brace to help get rid of the flexing under hard acceleration. |
Craigster
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:35 am: |
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We had a number of V-maxes come in the shop with stretched rods. They actualy had piston hits on the heads. Is that what happened to yours?
Might need to take up model rail roading as BadS1 has me afraid to go down the V-Max path....Chain drive conversion would be cool....but I can see the $$$$ and time flying out the window. How long did it take you to do the conversion?
Wife #2 is a great, but I don't think I could convince her that I would keep it stock. She knows me too well. Wife #1 really needed the boot but this one is a keeper. Although a built V-Max could be a real cool father son science project.......
Yeah...that's the ticket! |
BadS1
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:37 am: |
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You ain't kidding.What I see on the Max's these days are way beyond my bike was but it was awesome back then cause so few were set up like mine in 1988.Man I'd like to talk more about these bikes but I gotta catch some zzzz's |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:38 am: |
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Hey Trains can cost as much or more than engine mods! Plus you can't ride the train. Unless of course you build a nice gauge 1 live steam outdoor railroad then you could probably ride some kids around on it. |
Craigster
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:42 am: |
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Looks like my boy is awake and needs a little bed time story to go back to sleep.
I'll have to check in on this thread on Monday as I don't think I've had this much fun with Motorcycle conversation in several weeks.
Cheers guys |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 12:54 am: |
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Ahh, it is still early out here in So Cal. night guys. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 01:02 am: |
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How is this for a V-Max.
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U4euh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 01:13 am: |
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I like your black swingarm, paint or powder?
Bike looks great! and that is one sweet looking XBR.
V-max, sme-mack! Those bikes got so much crap on'em I'd be scared to ride the dern things on the street. Now give me a nice long straight away back in TX towards El Paso, be fun to see what they would do top end wise. |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 09:13 am: |
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U4euh: That's exactly what I don't what my bike to be. I rode my bike home from the show...in the rain Everyone else was scrambling to gets their's in their trailers. I like show bikes, but if you can't ride 'em, forget it. I've spent too much time on my bike to not ride it cause I'm worried about it getting messed up.
The V-Max's were awesome. As soon as I brought my bike in and found out they were in my class, I knew I didn't have a chance. The first one above with the flames was out of control. The third one won best streetfighter. It was really sweet also. Like I said, I'm not upset about it. It was still a lot of fun.
I knew this would make for good conversation and I wanted some other opinions on it. Maybe it was me that was in the wrong class. In my opinion, the lightning is streetfighter defined. To me, it just goes back to how it handles. I think the streetfighter class is a strictly sport bike class. No matter what anyone says, I will never consider a V-Max a sport bike, and that's mainly why I don't think they should have been in my class.
My swing arm is black powder coat. What a pain in the •••. It took no time to powder coat, but it took almost four days to strip it. There is so much material on the swing arm. I wouldn't have powder coated it if it wasn't for Xbcrazy and this thread http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/120529.html
Craigster:
"Why do you care what a V-Rod is? Did you lose to a V-Rod? You realize they Don't include the V-max in the power cruiser shoot outs right? 20 years old and it's quicker in the quarter than the V-rod. And that's funny since the V-Rod is the quickest power cruiser."
Check the Yamaha website. Even they call it a Muscle Bike on the main V-Max page. Then, under Features & Benefits it says "The original 1298cc V-4 power cruiser has a unique style, stance and look that’s all its own as well as an international fan base."
That's exactly why I was talking about the V-Rod's. I think they should be in the same class as the V-Max's. And since the V-Rod would never be in the streetfighter class, or even the Street-Rod for that matter, that's why I was comparing them.
Thanks for all the compliments |
Mike_bolts
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:43 am: |
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Daveinm, your bike looks really nice, I like the tasteful applications powder coating and chrome.
I used to participate in ISCA car shows here in Houston and felt the same frustrations that you do. These shows are geared for trailer queens that are never run on the street. I remember competing against guys who had airbrushed and chromed out their under-carriage. Nuts...
There is quite a bit of stratedgy going on in chosing a class to compete. For example if all of those V-Max's entered in the cruiser class, they would have had to compete against the HD's and choppers. So they chose street fighter.
One of the reasons I got out of the car hobby was that all you do is spend money under the hood and show it off at the next cruise in or car show. Bikes are all about riding! |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:05 am: |
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Mike_bolts: Yeah, I understand their strategy. However, the show producers/judges should not have let the V-Max's in a sportbike category.
I'm not worried about spending the money. I've done all the work myself and I thoroughly enjoy doing it, so it's much less expensive then what most people would have to spend and it's well worth the cost in my opinion. I work on computers all day and being in the garage is a great escape. Being in the garage draws me to the bikes almost as much as riding them. I even find myself constantly working on friends and relatives bikes
To me, the shows are just something different to do. It's like a weekend vacation. I'd be doing the same work to the bike if I wasn't showing it, so what do I have to lose? Entry fee was only $30, and tickets were $12, so it almost pays for itself if you plan on going to the show both days.
I find it extremely rewarding that my bike is at a show like that, doesn't look even slightly out of place next to all the insane custom bikes, and best of all, I did all the work myself. Plus, it gives me motivation to do all the mods to the bike instead of procrastinating like usual, and it's a good excuse to give her a good cleaning |
Doughnut
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:03 pm: |
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 Is this a V-Max? (Still think they look like "power crusiers".). |
BadS1
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:09 pm: |
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Far from a cruiser Doughnut.Smokes a V-rod and kicks butt on the Japanese V twins. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:12 pm: |
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The one and only muscle bike left. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:13 pm: |
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That one looks like it would be fun at the strip, the one I posted above has twin NOS bottles on top of the fake tank. |
BadS1
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:24 pm: |
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Krassh....Is that a fake tank on your XB ???.....or is that a airbox cover. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:27 pm: |
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You mean the pic in my profile? |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:28 pm: |
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Funny got me! |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:29 pm: |
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Heck of the three bikes I own only one has the "tank" in the place most people would look for it. |
Doughnut
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:34 pm: |
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Anyone have a V-max they are willing to let me ride? They look like really powerful cruisers to me. What make them not a power cruiser? |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:43 pm: |
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Power cruiser class is more like a large capacity V-twin that resembles a V-star and those types of bikes. The V-max is still more of a standard bike that has an awesome V-4 motor. Basically show me a power cruiser that in stock form can run a mid to high 10's with a good rider. The only other bikes during that time that could where the GS1150ES, V65 magna and other bikes in the muscle bike class. The only bikes that get those good of times these days stock are sport bikes in general. The power cruisers of today cannot run those times. |
BadS1
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:45 pm: |
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They look like really powerful cruisers to me.They stand alone.Nothing like them.Never has been.Doing a rolling burnout in 2nd gear without using the clutch is something that is so awesome.There is no cruiser on the market that can do that.Or wheelie for that matter. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:50 pm: |
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That is why these bikes shows should just have a V-Max class as there are usually plenty in a major metro area to fill their own class. |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 10:25 am: |
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Exactly...that's exactly what I said to one of the show promoters. There must have been a dozen of them in the show. |
Jeremyh
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 11:21 am: |
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hey dave, i was wondering why nobody takes the time or thought to powder coat there forks to match there bikes. Is it a pain to do or just something people wouldnt dare do. To be completely honest with you i dont even know if its a good idea but i do know that your bike would look sweet with some all black forks. |
Krassh
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:05 pm: |
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You have to slide the forks through the clamps and build up of powder coat would make that difficult plus probably scuff the finish. |
Bomber
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:08 pm: |
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Al at American Sport Bike hard anodized his -- they look aces! |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 02:15 pm: |
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I agree with Krassh. I don't know how you would get the stanchions through the triple trees without ruining the finish. Plus, they would probably get ruined when you bake them.
I don't know about anodizing. I'll have to talk to Al about that.
I am planning on powder coating my triple trees black. Just haven't gotten to it yet. |
Al_lighton
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 09:52 am: |
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Hard anodizing the forks looks great, but it is a pain in the butt to do. They already are hard anodized, inside and out, but it is "clear" anodize. To black anodize them, you must first strip the existing hard anodize on the outside, polish the forks, then re-hard anodize the exterior in the desired color. The plater will need to prevent the anodizing from getting inside the tubes when the redo the external anodize. You pretty much have to grind thru the existing hard anodize, it is, well, very hard It has to be done with great care, since as soon as you get thru the hard anodize, you're into soft aluminum and the metal removal rate changes DRASTICALLY. You can butcher a perfectly good set of forks if not done very carefully.
But they look fabulous when done. I'm going to be doing a set of S2 forks for my S1W soon, and have been thinking about doing the XB-S forks as well. Not sure where I'll find the time, it takes more than a couple hours per tube.
Al |
Tatsu
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 04:11 pm: |
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Hey what was that black box on the dash of the XB? Was that a digital readout? I really want to change my analog dash to digital. |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 04:25 pm: |
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That was a rear-view camera monitor. He had an Ermax undertail and mounted a camera in one of the tail lights. Really cool! |
