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Nateman
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We should be getting fairly close to the 2006 model year launch. Anybody know exactly when that will be, or if Buell has anything fancy up their sleeves?
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it's tomorrow...
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

July 23rd, 10:00 AM in Denver.
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank you Anony : ).
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wait a minute... DENVER??? I could make that in a couple (few or so anyway) hours...

Am I invited?

If not, is there any way to crash the party w/o going to jail?

(Message edited by m1combat on June 22, 2005)
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Madduck
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am pretty sure we are all invited, except me of course

Getting the loyal and knowledgable Buell owners to one of these things is critical. Invites should be in the mail as we speak.
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Spike
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anony- Hasn't the official date been July 14th for the past few years? Why the change to the 23rd? Also, any chance you'll tell us the difference between a 34144-02 and a 34157-06?

Mike L.
'04 XB12R
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Odinbueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How much is it worth to know what the new models will be? : )

I'll be heading out to Denver myself, and will alert the BadWeb once we get the low down on the new models.

Just so everyone knows, once the new models are unveiled to the dealers, the Buell website goes live with the data. Just keep checking the website that weekend. There will be demo rides, so I'll report back once I get the low-down. If all goes well & the models are what I'm guessing they might be my post will be dated 2 days prior!
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The original schedule had a June release -- it changed.

-- Not that anonymous
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Onebuell
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buells aint selling all their 2005s yet so
whats up with worrying about the 2006s already?

Tell you one thing Harley dealers would be WISE
to dump their bikes for a grand less and still
make a nice profit on them.... Buells too !
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Chainsaw
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WHERE IN DENVER?

Being that I live in Denver, I can put on my Willie G mask, saucy leather beret, and saunter right on into the new model unveiling. ; )
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Tell you one thing Harley dealers would be WISE
to dump their bikes for a grand less and still
make a nice profit on them.... Buells too !"

And which company that's been making motorcycles for 102 years have you been running? Oh, wait... There aren't any others.
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Lucky
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

today at the soft tail plant the model year change over takes place i am not sure if any of the plants actually started making 06 yet.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Did the island intro get revised then?
Just curious. Maybe there never was an island intro plan?????
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Signguy
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Buells aint selling all their 2005s yet so
whats up with worrying about the 2006s already? "

I've seen 04's still collect dust in dealer showrooms...
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Phantom5oh
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I've seen 04's still collect dust in dealer showrooms..."

Yeah, me too.
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Onebuell
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wrote:

"Tell you one thing Harley dealers would be WISE
to dump their bikes for a grand less and still
make a nice profit on them.... Buells too !"

Combat replied:

And which company that's been making motorcycles for 102 years have you been running? Oh, wait... There aren't any others.

people can not take critiques of harley-davidson
motor company?

i own the HDI stock. they flooded the market and
dealers can't sell them all now. so they cut production 10,000 bikes sent the stock plummeting
10 points or so in ONE day... and you telling me
that harley dealers taking 1 grand off of their
bikes to SELL them out is a stupid idea?
the motor company IS not the dealers. The dealers
still making TONS of money. So is the motor company.

The motor company doesn't do a dang thing about
price gouging dealer tactics they do still.

OK so have a dealer full of 03, 04 and 05 and
06 bikes that you won't sell because each
year something is " new and improved "

So I DO OWN HDI and hence I own part of the COMPANY.

Dealers slam Harley davidson corp. all day long.

And actually IF you know you harley 102 year history so well.

what do you think Harley did during the great depression to survive?


many a harley dealer took on other brands (ie. Honda) during the 60's and 70's when harley bikes
had to be totally rebuilt in some cases at the
dealer before it could go out the door.

each year harley increases prices they price some
one out of buying that product. the boomers will die off and what will be left and who will be left? giving a customer 1 grand off a 20 thousand
dollar bike is not gonna kill em. that would
prolly bring IN sales.

I know if I was buying
a brand new buell I would LOVE
a thousand dollars off the sales price !

They make that grand up selling some overpriced
leather , a few chrome do dads, and MANDATORY
2 year warranty maintainence required services...
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Lucky
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from what i understand the prices are "suppose" to stay the same over the next five years. now whether or not that happens we will see. with all the growth in china the demand and cost for steel is increasing.
I expect softail sales to increase this year and so does the company. they're speeding up the line to prepare for it.

(Message edited by lucky on June 23, 2005)
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Vonsliek
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

buells are a grand or more off in canada
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stock market way over-reacted, so why is that the companies fault? And, anyhow, at retail price, Buells are the best value of anything from the Motor Company at the moment. Forget wasting time online, buy one and ride today!
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

each year harley increases prices they
price some one out of buying that product. the
boomers will die off and what will be left and
who will be left?


heheh, us.

That'd make us what, 97 percenters?
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Bomber
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you only get gouged if you agree to it . . .

harley, like all of us, is in business to make a profit --

as the consumer, you are the ultimate arbitor
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Kevyn
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know the Softtail Springer certainly has my attention...but the $$!!! Whoa!

It will take more than a skimpy 1K to move me in that direction...

For way less $$ I could get on a Triumph Sprint ST or a new Duc ST4S or even a Multistrada S. They may not have the look of a HD Springer but they'll move down the road and hustle through the hills a whole lot easier.

Dang, I just don't feel like HOG material...
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Kevyn
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...just noticed the anony post. Agreed, the Buell model line is bristling with innovation, quality and VALUE

We'll just have to see what's 'shakin' with the new models...
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Onebuell
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

barnett's has 7 (IN CRATE) XB9SX 1 not in crate !

brand new !
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Spike
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

I know if I was buying
a brand new buell I would LOVE
a thousand dollars off the sales price !




I'm sure you would, but that doesn't make it a good business model. Do you honestly believe that $1k is what keeps Buells on the sales floor?

Mike L.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I'm sure you would, but that doesn't make it a good business model. Do you honestly believe that $1k is what keeps Buells on the sales floor? "

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/6/0/home.aspx
2005 YZF-R1 MSRP* $10,999 (Blue; Red) $11,099 (Raven)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/products/modelhome/7/0/home.aspx
2005 FZ1 MSRP* $8,599

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/GSXR1000K6/Default.aspx
2006 GSX-R1000 MSRP: $10,999.00
2005 GSX-R750 MSRP: $9,699.00
2005 SV1000S MSRP: $8,599.00

http://www.buell.com/en_us/bikes_gear/firebolt/xb12r/index.asp
XB12R $10,495 is U.S. price only
XB9SX $8,695 is U.S. price only


I like Buells, I also like the Harley engine, but I also like most all bikes in general. For my next bike purchase Buell doesn't offer anything that fits my wants (2-up riding), and my next passenger-optional bike after that I'll have to wait to see what July offers (not buying in July unless it's a cruiser, and that probably won't be a Harley unless it's an older used model)

A $1,000 dollar discount will only capture the people that wanted a Buell anyway.
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Mikej
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Eurotwins
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wasn't Triumph started 1 year before Harley? Their centennial models were out in 2002. That would make them 103 years old....John
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But they've died like 68 times in that period haven't they? Maybe not... I'm not sure. Makes no difference really anyway : ).

"They make that grand up selling some overpriced
leather , a few chrome do dads, and MANDATORY
2 year warranty maintainence required services..."

That's not true... You can perform your own maintenance. You can also CHOOSE not to in the US. Where are you from again?

"So I DO OWN HDI and hence I own part of the COMPANY. "

Yeah, neat... But you don't RUN the company, which is what I was asking about. WRT the stock price, sounds to me like you should have anticipated that, sold the stock just before it dropped then picked it up again... You CHOSE to lose money there : ).
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