| Author | Message | ||
     Bigeasy |
I flipped my gear shifter around on my xb12s. Now it shifts 1 up 4 down, takes some getting used to but I like it so far. Just need some pegs off the firebolt now to make it easier to shift. For now I put the passenger pegs up front. Anybody else try this? art | ||
| Blackbelt |
that is an intereting idea..... let me know how it works after about 1 month of use.. lol | ||
| Buell12hundo |
some of my friends use to do that with there metric sports, when I asked why they told me it better for the canyons bro never got around to trying it | ||
| Buelltroll |
Almost all racers use it. Alot of people on this board have done it,Ithink it just involves unhooking n turning the shifter over. | ||
| Race_pirate |
I have the "Niner" set up with GP shift pattern. When I first started racing I used the standard shift pattern, then I bought my 250 - 2 Stroke and I had to change over, it became necessary to shift gears while in turns, an its easier to toe tap down then getting your toe under the shifter, while leaned hard over left. Now Im so used to it that I changed the Buell over. The way I remember is to SHIFT DOWN the Straightaway!!! I think changing to GP Shift adds something like 30HP, but Im not sure.... | ||
| Buelltroll |
lol | ||
| Djkaplan |
I can see the merit of a GP pattern, especially on a bike with limited cornering clearance, but there is no way I could adapt to one after riding with the standard pattern since 1976. I could see myself getting into trouble pretty quickly, especially in a tight situation where I'm depending on instinct and experience. Great for those of you that try it, though. | ||
| Ortegakid |
It's the best; when some *%$*$ trys to steal your bike,they will make it a block ,then crash! No really, it makes it SO much better for riding aggressively or racing, I will never ride right side up, haven't since '74. The funny part is, most people don't even know why it was originally done. | ||
| Xbcrazy |
I switched over to GP last year. I had been riding the standard pattern since my dirt bike days as a kid. It was weird at first but after about two weeks of riding GP it was feeling pretty normal. After about a month and a half it was like I had been riding that way all my life. I like it better for the track but don't think that it makes a big difference on the street. | ||
| Doughnut |
The funny part is, most people don't even know why it was originally done. And the reason is?  | ||
| M1combat |
Because when someone passes you on the left and reaches over and hits your gearshift you don't grenade the engine AND highside... Close to the same reason that keys should be wired into the ignition and carbs/intakes should ALWAYS be covered in the paddock. An added little benefit is that you can shift up at high lean angles. I have had to keep my revs at 5500 in third coming out of a turn because I knew that I'd bounce off the rev limiter because I wouldn't be able to shift. I was already dragging the outside of my boot and there was NO WAY I was moving it... I haven't switched over yet though... I've been riding for 22 years and not all bikes are convertible... (Message edited by m1combat on June 07, 2005) | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
I went to GP shift last year. I love it! until I hop on my wife's bike  Downshifting an upshift can be embarrassing  | ||
| M1combat |
Not to mention expensive  . | ||
| Bigeasy |
Well I've been out riding all day and I think I'll keep it this way. I have about 10000miles on my bike and lately have had a problem with missing 2nd. With this set up problem solved!! | ||
| Deuceman |
I shift like that on my Norton all the time, only the shifter is on the right side and the brake is on the left. It definitely takes a little bit of getting used to, and it's difficult switching from bike to bike. | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
How do you switch it? I'd like to try it out for a bit. | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
Loosen the pinch bolt where the linkage goes into the tranny. Rotate the shifting arm 180 deg. Reattach and adjust the tierod for new foot position. | ||
| Elff |
Has anyone who has done this taken their bike to a dealer only to have them shift 1 down 4 up? I bet it is pretty funny (Message edited by elff on June 07, 2005) | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Loosen the pinch bolt where the linkage goes into the tranny Correction/addition REMOVE the pinch bolt as it is also the locking pin. The real reason for the reverse shift pattern is that shifting up through the gears is faster. You can tap down the lever quicker then you can lift it with your foot. | ||
| Jon_s |
Unless you have genuine reason to reverse the pattern, I'd leave it alone. I saw the results last summer when a friend reversed the pattern on his Lightning. All it took was a momentary lapse of concentration while attempting to upshift at or near redline on the back straight at Mosport. The bike sounded like crap afterward. Bent valve, mushroomed push rod. There is a very good reason why the feds mandated the gear shift location and pattern back in 74. | ||
| Firewhirl |
"I think changing to GP Shift adds something like 30HP, but Im not sure...." I need to see some dyno pulls as proof...... hehehehe | ||
| Elff |
I think your correct, and firebolts are already Type R buells so this | ||
| Ortegakid |
In the old days,(before most of you were born), and we went to go road racing,you installed rear sets on your rd/tr/td.In order to make the shifter lever reach the new foot peg position, you simply reversed it, ie; it pointed to the back of the bike, not the front,this now created the upside down shifting we all use to this day. Nowadays, all you have to do is switch the lever on the trans the other direction, on most modern sport bikes, very easy, see my pic,is obvious! | ||
| Kdan |
In the old days,(before most of you were born), and we went to go road racing,you installed rear sets on your rd/tr/td. I just knew some old guy would come along and 'splain it. Thanks Kid! | ||
| Bcordb3 |
And to think the shifter was on the right side and the brake was on the left on most motorcycles! Standardization messed up the confusion and made them all the same. Loved my Triumph and Bultaco and various other machines I had back in the day (so to speak). | ||
| Deuceman |
I still have a Norton that way, and I'm not an old guy (I don't think)! | ||
| Bake |
Great, My Laverda shifts on the right, my dirtbike could be conventional and the Buell can now be something completely different. Think I am gonna pass on this one lads! (Message edited by bake on June 10, 2005) | ||
| Elff |
This reminds me of that Happy Days episode where the Fonz was the only one on the jury who thought the guy was innocent. He finally remembered that the bike the guy was riding had the throttle on the left handlebar and could not have been holding the gun in his left hand | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Reversing the lever with the pinch bolt alone won't give you a good shift leverage. You will want to bolt the shift lever to the upper mounting hole (yes it's got two mounting position), the one with the black plastic plug blocking the hole. Just pry it out a bit and unscrew it. You will want to get a shorter linkage adjusting tube if you can't get the alignment (90 degree between connecting linkages) - that will give you a much better leverage and smoother shifting position. | ||
| Xbolt12 |
Anyone change back and forth to a bike with standard pattern? Do you adapt right away? I would do this conversion, but I ride a YZ400F on the dirt and would hate to get confused. xbolt12 | ||
| 2k3lightning |
Anyone have a picture to show the change in the lever position? | ||
| M1combat |
That's the only reason I don't do it Xbolt... I have a KL600R... | ||
| Charlieboy6649 |
This is a pic of mine... I left it on the bottom because I have HUGE FEET. I recommend for you normal sized people, you take DC's advice... http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/98917.jpg | ||
| Cwby8383 |
hey Xbolt, I ride a Buell (12s, not r) and also a yz400f in the dirt! coincidence??? |
