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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone please re-state what thew issue is.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why, this is more emotional than a Jerry Springer show, please don't stop it.
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BadS1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spatten I've owned Gsxr's and Fzr 1000's.So what???
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BadS1,

Then you have a right to argue that the Japanese bikes don't work as well as Buells, if that is your experience. It just drives me nuts to hear about it from people that probably haven't ridden hard on a top notch Japanese sportbike built in the last 5 years or so.
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard a rumor that the AMA Buell race teams were
going thru 3 to 5 motors a weekend.
Does anybody know anything about this subject??
That's a hard one to swallow!!

Please remember before you flame me, It's just a
rumor I heard. And I'd like to know if it's true.
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Got1nut
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had some Pita bread with turkey and cheese and it was darn good.
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That does sound good Got1nut.
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BadS1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not arguing that Buells are superior.There all good.I'm just arguing race facts.Like Pup saying that the inlines don't have near the mods the Buells have.Thats just untrue.
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They are all good, I couldn't agree more.

I noticed in the magazine article that the FX Buells lengthened the wheelbase. Is that necessary to provide stability with the additional power, or is there another reason? Anyone know?
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BadS1
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It improved handling with the additional power.Your right Spatten.
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Midknyte
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Bbstacker
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why does this have to be a d!ck bending contest? It occurs to me that if everyone would just STFU and put on a helmet and go out and ride whatever they have...and stop clogging up bandwidth...this would all blow over like a fart in a whirlwind. My $.02

Nuff said.
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Thepup
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bads,all you have to do is look at the rule book and see that the inline-4's could not be as modified as the Buells.Why is it so hard to admit the Buell engine is not a race engine,it is great for the street,but will never be a great race engine.
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BadS1
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its nothing to admit.See.....Honda's motor stock is about 104 or so at the tire and the FX bikes are all about 145-150 hp.How easy do you think it is to get that 50 hp or so????Not that easy.So you can look at the rules and compare them all you want but you still don't have that understanding.Do you think one piece of there internals is stock.Its got nothing to with me thinking BUELL is a great race motor.This has got everthing to do with you not knowing what your talking about concerning what they do to there inline 4's.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FX bikes are basically 600cc factory (or near factory) level superbikes. All of the bikes in the class are allowed extensive mods. This is a matter of record. Check the rule book.
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Firebolt428
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Norris. That would would be a rumor. I was hangin with Rich (Kosco Buell) in the pits at Laguna and they had two bikes and I never saw them change out either motor. Now I can't say the same for the other guys because i am not sure about them but Kosco Buell when I was there had the same motors..
Pup,
I seem to be winning races on my Buell motor that is slightly bored and modded so it can't be that bad of a motor. There you go again talking about something you know nothing about. You should just stop before you dig yourself so deep you will never get out.
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Midknyte
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I declare this thread a waste! Thepup. Leave now and take your uneducated notions with you. You seem to think because you read the AMA rules on line that you are now an expert on racing. You know all the in's and out's of engines, bike set ups, why Buells that are DEALER sponsored aren't kicking the @ss of FACTORY sponsored teams. Hell, you should start your own team you know so much!
You've had problems with your bike/dealer. Don't come here expecting people to agree with you on every point. You aren't going to change their minds, and they aren't going to change yours. But pulling these ideas as to why Buell doesn't race in superbike out of your @ss is just stupid. Read those rules too. Point being, go buy what you want, and enjoy it. Don't post thinking you'll get some sympathetic ears here. I don't blame you for being frustrated and *issed off, but it's pretty ignorant to think you are going to put down Buell an a site for Buell riders.
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Firebolt428
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

agreed
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M1combat
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Why is it so hard to admit the Buell engine is not a race engine,it is great for the street,but will never be a great race engine."

I don't recall any of us ever stating that it was a race engine... It's not. It IS, however, a VERY good street engine that's also been made to be competitive in FX. Why's that so hard for you to accept?
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Wheelsleaning
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thepup got Schooled
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BadS1
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Pup.....
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Thepup
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocketsprink,what are you racing against?I could race an XB against a BMW airhead,a Ducati air cooled twin.What does that have anything to do with FX or Superbike.M1,Bads,Wheellean,just what did I get schooled on?Funny thing is everything you tried to state was proven wrong.The Buells have a lot more mods than the 600's,did I say the 600's were not modded,no,I said they weren't as modded as the Buells,and that is true.One more thing,why would I care what any of you in here think about my problems with my bike.Hopefully it will at least give some insight to ppl who may want to hear the other side of owning a Buell,everything isn't perfect,like many on here claim.I notice in a thread on here a few ppl are starting to have problems with there tranny,hmmm must be a coincidence.
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Thepup
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rocket,you may want to read my posts,I never put down Buell.I guess talking the truth is hard for the Buell cult to take.
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BadS1
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pup you have been schooled and you just still don't get it.The teacher needs to fail you or give you special help.Or maybe a LD class.Pup I'm sorry your an idiot you have not proven a thing.I'm done with this thread.I suggest you should to.
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CJXB
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry your an idiot you have not proven a thing.I'm done with this thread.

Please do be done with this thread, all of you that cannot refrain from name calling and insults, geezzz can't you just disagree and make your own points without the rest ??
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pup. Again you prove your ignorance. Your entire thread is about how Buells can't compete with anything and that everyone here doesn't know as much as you because YOU read the AMA rules on line.
PUP. May 16= "Buells do get their asses kicked by 600's. They aren't true sportbikes."
I'll take you up on that Rossi Jr. And what exactly is a "True" sportbike? A race replica bike?
"I am no racer wanna be, so I could care less if the Japanese bikes can beat me."
First, it's I couldn't care less, not I could care less. Saying that means you could care less. Think about it. And for someone that is not a racer wanna be, ya sure seem to think you know a lot.
Boils down to this. Sell your bike. Get something that will give you 100,000 miles of trouble free riding, (good luck) and join their board. Then when you realize that the grass isn't always greener, start telling them what pieces of crap their bikes are (which is what you are doing here whether you believe it or not). Then you'll *iss them off, and you can start this whole cycle again. You seem to think that only your opinion matters. Well, it does. But only to you. You're entitled to state facts, but your NOT entitled to invent your own facts. That said, I will leave this thread alone. I don't want to have the wrath of CJ hit me like a ton of bricks. I'm on her good side because I gave her some Advil on our last ride. But if I know her, it won't take much for that memory to fade.
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 02:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 05:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>I notice in a thread on here a few ppl are starting to have problems with there tranny

Name them or post the link. I want to talk to them.

Court
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>I guess talking the truth is hard for the Buell cult to take.

Prove it.

I've been riding and writing about riding Buells for 20 years. I've been the first to take Buell to task when they come up short.

You appear, and I am at this point giving you the benefit of the doubt, to be an internet troll who came to discussion of facts armed with little more than unsubstantiated opinion and "bait".

Either back it up or take it to the Disney channel.

Court Canfield
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