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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is my crankcase breather set up. Cost?, about $10. Parts?, two 3/8" hose barb "T" fittings, one 3/8" hose barb straight fitting, 3/8" I.D. PCV hose, clear 3/8" I.D. hose, two 1/2" rubber coated clamps and a suitable plug for the clear hose (I used one from a Honda). Route both hoses as shown in the picture and install them on each "arm" of a "T" fitting. Point the "leg" of the "T" down, towards the front of the bike. Install about a 6" piece of PCV hose to an "arm" of the second "T". Install the clear hose (this is the drain hose) on the other "arm" of the "T". The "leg" of the second "T" should point up/forward. Install an appropriate length of PCV hose to the "leg" and direct it back to the top of the engine as shown in the picture (this is the filter/vent hose). Secure filer as shown using the 3/8" hose barb straight fitting. Plug the clear hose. Install the rubber coated clamps as shown using the oil cooler mounting bolts. Route the clear hose through the clamps and you are set. It works great, catches all kinds of crud...YIKES!, drains very easily and the crud level is instantly visible. Enjoy!
Hose routing detailDrain hose
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Norrisperformance
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool

I noticed you said in another post it feels
up super fast, how many miles would that be.
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Buell12hundo
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EJ!!!
do you have any problems with that hose so close to the front jug? (melting and such)
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got about an inch of clear water and some "snot" in the tube in about 50 miles of operation. With that said, ambient conditions dictate how fast the thing will fill up. I live on the CA coast with a pretty good marine layer present in the A.M.. I also am on the road to work at 5:30A.M. so there is a lot of moisture in the air. I do ride long enough to where the cooling fan comes on when I get to where I'm going. Bottom line is, most will drain the tube every other week or so.

No problems with heat/melting. The picture is misleading. There is a lot more clearance than what it looks like.
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Buell12hundo
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EJ!!!
thanks for sharing your knowledge really cool of you man.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is much crud or oil fighting gravity and drooling out of the filter?
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not that I have experienced. I had a different (not as good) configuration system on the bike for about 500 miles with no crud coming out of the filter. This set up is much better so I don't expect any problems. I think the crud blows right by the filter hose and gravity pulls it into the drain hose. The vapors turn the corner and go out the filter. If crud does begin to go up the filter hose it has to climb uphill a pretty good bit to get to the filter. Again, gravity will pull the stuff out of the filter hose back down into the drain hose.
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Hogs
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Interesting...
Do ya have a pic. where the clear hose meets the 3/8 hose that union.?Sorry what do you use for a plug/t on the end? Thanks
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll try to get a picture of the clear hose/"T" union. It's in a hard spot so we shall see. I used a plug from the drain tube found on any Honda street motorcycle. It's all the same on all years. It is installed in the light pink hose that comes off the air box. I have a Honda part # I'll post later when I get home.
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Mou5e
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thnx ejiii. awesome info.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ejiii, from past experience, I did a set up pretty much exactly as you have done. I found after awhile that the filter itself was filling with goop. Turns out, some of the pressurized air coming out of the PVC valves was back feeding slightly into the clear tube, and getting stuck. After a long enough ride, the tube had filled with enough pressure that the goop/crud/what ever was just bypassing the it and continueing on to the filter. That is why catchcan's have volume, not so much to catch that much junk, but so air pressure doesn't fill it up. The one Norrisperformance made gets around this by having the airfilter at the top of the can so as it fills with pressure it bleeds off as well.
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess time will tell. I ran this exact setup on my KTM Duke which pumped out all kinds of crud and never had that problem. The neat thing was the entire setup was done with clear hose so you could watch the crud crawl through the system. It always went down into the tube never up to the filter. I'll keep an eye on it and keep you all posted.
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Ejiii
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is a picture of where the clear hose meets the 3/8" "T" fitting. You can see the hose coming down from the top "T" fitting, the hose going up to the filter (I cheated, I used a 90 degree section of the stock breather hose to come off the "leg" of the "T"; ) and of course the clear drain hose. All the stuff fits in there pretty cleanly. The part # for the drain tube plug is 17370-382-870, this is a stock Honda part.
Tee fitting
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