| Author | Message | ||
     Evilchevy |
I'm F***ing stupid, this morning wasn't really awake and field my tank with diesel. Didn't start it, not even put the ignition on.... WHat is the best to do???????? I called my dealler's service team, the can't take the bike before the 6th july and want to charge me a fortune and have a meeting this week end. Is anyone know how can i do it myself??? is this an easy job??????? need your help thanx in advance jimmy | ||
| Rek |
drain the fuel. add new gas. drain it a 2nd time and then add gas again. that should do it. Rob | ||
| Evilchevy |
Will try, but what is the best way to drain the fuel???????????? | ||
| Tikiman1 |
Fuel pump at the bottom of the tank. | ||
| Hogs |
I just had a dream yesterday that I did the same thing ...Werid but only in a dream I feel your pain Bro :-) I`m not sure that you wd. get both sides by removing the fuel pump only.????But then again there must be a connecter hose there somehow, I think I wd. also remove the pressure line after you think you got it all out put line into a container new gas in and turn it over with sparkplugs out for abit until you know its all gas....I don`t think alittle of it will hurt anything anyways But then again just a little... This may be over kill but then again I`m not sure...??????? | ||
| Hogs |
Oh And IF you do make sure the plug areas are clean free from any dirt etc. & do not ground out on anything lay them on a clean rag or something so no spark grounds them out...Not sure this matters either but some bikes or their inigition systems don`t like to be grounded out not sure on the buells Others MAy know more here????? | ||
| Id073897 |
IIRC there's a screw for draining the tank at the fuel pump. Regards, Gunter (Message edited by id073897 on May 11, 2005) | ||
| Kdan |
I did this to a truck once. Drain the tank, fill it with gas and motor on. The diesel won't hurt anything. I actually drove it a mile or so until the carb filled with diesel and then went smoke city. Towed it to my buddy's shop and was back on the road in an hour. | ||
| Evilchevy |
the garage told me that diesel and unleaded mixed together can gel....... and that it was tricky to drain the tank, that is why the want to charge me 4 or 5 hours labours. what hapened if they tried to started it with the diesel in? I didn't even put the ignition on, but they may be to move the bike..... what a nightmare jimmy | ||
| Rek |
Jimmy, Take it easy dude. Just drain the fuel, put in new gas and run it a while. The worst that can happen is you'll need a new 02 sensor and a couple plugs. Geeze Louise, you're lucky to have such a simple problem to deal w/. Rob | ||
| Hobanbrothers |
If you did not start the bike and even if you did, just drain the tank and put in premium. We have at least 1 bike a year that someone does this to. No worries, just drain and go, it actually is a good top end lube, but do not try to do it often. It may smoke a bit, but diesel is just fuel oil, hence the smoke... | ||
| Cataract2 |
Well, your new name is Diesel now. | ||
| Evilchevy |
thanx guys.... Will go to pick up the bike at the garage tonight and do it this week end.will hopefuly save me few bucks. Where is the drain screw??? what do i need to remove to access to the fuel pump?? jimmy | ||
| M1combat |
Talk to Court about it... | ||
| Bud |
drain plug is on the left hand side off the frame, if you remove the left foot peg •••. for easy access did fill up my car with some free petrol mixed with a little diesel ( it was free, and 60 liters off it ) it did run, but with a lot off smoke. get a can off fresh fuel 2 gallon's or so and and fill the bike with that after you drain the diesel, and shake the bike  drain it again and than go for some clean fuel and start your bike | ||
| 99buellx1 |
You may be able to get by with siphoning out the fuell and putting in about a gallon and re-siphoning the tank. | ||
| Vonsliek |
ain't diesel just gas & oil? doesn't oil - at least in olde engines - makes its way past the rings & seals anyway? it'll just burn off .. smokey .. like my old ironhead POS!! | ||
| Id073897 |
Now, found the section in the service manual. The draining procedure as written there: - disconnect the 4-place fuel pump connector. Connector is located inside the left rear portion of the fuel tank/frame - with the motorcycle in neutral, start the engine and allow vehicle to run - when the engine stalls, press the starter button for 3 seconds to remove any remaining fuel from fuel line - remove drain plug and drain fuel into appropriate container. Discard plug. - when fuel tank is empty, replace with new drain plug. Tighten to 84-108 in-lbs (9.5-12.2 Nm). The drain plug is just beneath the fuel supply fitting. You do not have to remove the left footpeg, although it might be helpful. Regards, Gunter | ||
| Whodom |
Anyone else here old enough to remember the motorcycle-themed TV show "Then Came Bronson"? (Dude gets fed up with 9-5 office job, quits, buys Sportster, tours country). In one episode, old lady at a country store accidentally fills up Sporty with weed killer. He starts bike and it dies shortly afterwards. Nearby resident (played by Keenan Wynn) offers to help him fix bike. Turns out Wynn (on the show and in real life) was an old motorcycle racer. He gets inspired and pulls his old bike out of the barn, fixes it up, and plans to leave with Bronson. Anyway, this whole fuel deal reminded me of that episode. Be glad you didn't pump your XB full of weed killer!  (edit) Dang, it's amazing what you can find on the web: http://www.thencamebronson.com/pages/descrip2.htm#episode_2 (Message edited by whodom on May 11, 2005) | ||
| Nevar |
Then Came Bronson... Michael Parks played the lead. I think the bridge he rides over in the opening credits is on Highway 1 between Monterey and Big Sur. At least we used to call it the "Bronson Bridge". Tim | ||
| Xring |
Some older diesel cars recommend running a gas/diesel fuel mix in the winter, so it seems that they wouldn't gel if mixed. Good luck, Bill | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Your dealer has a most creative imagination. I gotta see this gel he is talking about. A dock hand put about 50 gallons of diesel in my boat one time. I just topped that off with 250 gallons of gasoline, and moved out smartly, never noticed the difference and didn't have to pay for the diesel:-). Didn't notice any gel:-). Engines were carburated GM big blocks. Just drain, fill and go to a new dealer. | ||
| Court |
>>>>Talk to Court about it... Please....don't make me bring that story out of the can. We're just now reaching the Kansas Statute of Limitations, for stealing the diesel from a farm tank and the pain of me hearing (when calling my good pals at Buell technical "increase the compression to 16:1 and call us in the morning.....click". I am TRULY a victim in the world of Buell. Court | ||
| Court |
Oh...by the way....just drain it, fill it with fresh gas and go about your business. It'll take a few minutes to quit spittin' and poppin, BUT your injections will REALLY be clean. If you have a DDFI, snap up (just a couple bucks) an O2 sensor. Court By the way....mototcycles PALE in comparison to my REAL "oops that was diesel" tale. If any of you have ever seen the quite HUGE 345kV power line that crosses I-70 near Paxico, KS, remind me to tell you how I brought Jeffrey Energy Center and Eastern Kansas to it's energy knees one July afternoon as a yute. | ||
| Shazam |
Court, I have seen the "quite huge 345kV power line that crosses I-70 near Paxico, KS" and am hereby reminding you. | ||
| Pammy |
Just drain it and refill the tank with premium. That's my vote as well. Your garage should be ashamed... | ||
| Dilysi73 |
I drained my XB last week for shipping. Really easy! As stated above don't forget to unplug the connector right by the drain plug,to releave any fuel pressure. Then just unscrew drain plug and refill. Took me 10-15 mins to do in my drive way. 5 mins of that was looking for the connector. Aaron  | ||
| Bbstacker |
The experience of a trucker here. Unleaded fuel is way harder on a diesel engine than diesel is on a gas engine. The reason being, diesel is heavier (thicker) than regular gas hence the need for a fuel pump capable of delivering at very high pressure. The pressure needed to properly vaporize diesel fuel would actually ignite regular gas causing detonation in the injector pump of the diesel engine. A standard fuel pump will push diesel fuel, but won't vaporize it enough to burn efficiently and a 10:1 compression ratio won't detonate it either. Basically what you would end up with is fouled plugs. Conclusion: Drain, refill with correct fuel and everything will be fine. | ||
| U4euh |
Court you are reminded! | ||
| Xbolt12 |
Diesel can contain water though. But I wouldn't think there would be any significant amount in just 3.7 gallons. | ||
| Blake |
Shave the heads for 18:1 compression. Lose the spark plugs. Ride it.  | ||
| Evilchevy |
Do i need to replace with a new drain plug??? I'm sure as my dealer didn't do the job (and lost 4 hours charge for 15 minute job), they gonna tell me they need to order and the plug will be there next month or a stupid story like this. jimmy | ||
| Id073897 |
> Do i need to replace with a new drain plug??? So says the service manual. It's your decision anyway ... Regards, Gunter | ||
| Henrik |
Evil; there are fortunately good dealer folks on Badweb; either Daves or Clown, I'm sure can help you out in less time than it'd take a bad dealer to just get the part ordered. (and I know there are more great Buell folks here, just can't remember your user names - sorry  ) Henrik | ||
| 99buellx1 |
I dont have one, sorry. Drain Plug with O-Ring: Part # P0189.02A8 Retail $9.49 Hope this helps. |
