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Exupmonkey
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just back after doing about 120 miles on the twisties. Lots of short shifting etc has left me with a slight pain in my (clutch) wrist. It doesn't usually bother me but I was aware that every pull of the clutch was becoming a bit of a chore. It just got me thinking what mods, if any , are available to assist with a heavy clutch on a spirited ride. Gaz, I see from your profile that you are running a 'Muller' clutch, what does that involve, how much and did you get it from West Coast? Any other opinion out there?
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BadS1
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Monkey you must switch hands to spank the monkey.LOL
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Midknyte
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The way I see it, for once in my life, my left grip is now as strong as my right : D
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Gowindward
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Take a look at the angle your wrist and finger are at while on the clutch lever. It may help to rotate the clutch lever to create a more neutral angle. Carpal tunnel can be caused with to much angle in the wrist, so you may be feeling that affect.
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Exupmonkey
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good one BadS1
But I don't have to switch cause I am wankidextrous
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Gaz
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bought it from Trojan Horse - £99.

Works well. Definitely makes a difference.
Easy to fit. Bit fiddly to set up, easier with two people.

And I fitted it after trying adjusting the angle of the clutch lever.

(Message edited by gaz on April 05, 2005)
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P0p0k0pf
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A quality cable-lubing kit can do wonders. You know... for the clutch cable...
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Jarhead
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

monkey, I had the same problem, until I did exactly what windward said, rotating the clutch lever down so my wrist was straight when pulling it(the clutch BadS1). Problem Solved.
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M1combat
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same here... Proper adjustment. I also just picked up a CRG adjustable lever, but quite frankly I never had any trouble with it... I just like the look of the CRG : ).
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Grow some man hands ya damn woman.






Just kidding it used to do the same to me but after a whole season i guess my left just got used to it because it hasnt botherd me at all this year.
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BadS1
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bought it from Trojan????LOL First its rubbers and now what??LOL
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hokay - has anybody had any clutch slipping with hard use with the modified clutch?

I've actually gone to a heavier-than-XB12 spring and spend time squeezing a rubber ball to build clutch-hand grip strength. (please... spare me the obvious comments!! : ))

I've heard a couple people doing clutch mods (Candice on her M2 for one) - but they're not ridden really hard. I did try her clutch and it is an amazing difference in lightness of feel.
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Exupmonkey
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL indeed!
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Buelltroll
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 6 way adjustable CRG levers dont actually make the clutch any easier to pull but they does make the "throw" shorter I guess.
Plus you can set them on 6 (way out) and it makes pulling clutch wheelies easier or u can set them on 2or3 and it makes shifting faster.
DEFINITLEY worth the 100 clams each.
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Exupmonkey
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gowindward, just adjusted the angle of my clutch dangle as you suggested....seems much more comfortable! Next ride out should tell!
Not only have I made BadS1 giggle but I may have found a cost free solution
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Captjim
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also when stopping try to grip the bike with your knees and keep the weight off of your wrists.
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Jaredkuper
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Definitely pay attention to the grip you have. Most likely, your wrists are being kept totally tight through most of the ride, not good. Learn to relax, grip the bike with your lower body more, and breath. Wrist pain is a sign of being way to tense in the arms and hands. First instinct is to tense up when you're excited in the turns, everyone does it but it's a bad habit.

Also, the clutch adjustment (rotation) is really good for it.
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Lastcyclone
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try these, they seem to help.
<http://www.p3racing.com/johar/johar.html>
Superbike model seems to look a bit cooler on our bikes.
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Geoffg
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Adjusting the position of the clutch lever as Gowindward suggests is important. I don't know exactly why, but I don't think I've ever seen a bike in any dealership showroom with the clutch and brake levers set in the correct position (there should be a straight line from forearm through wrist and fingers, with the fingers resting lightly on the control lever). And they never tell you to adjust them, it's just one of those things riders are expected to know.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Like already advised so wisely above... Poor ergonomic setup with the clutch will absolutely kill your left wrist. Way too many bikes I see have the clutch lever adjusted too high. Rotate it down so the tendons running from your forearm through your wrist to your fingers have as straight a shot as is possible over the range of motion when you pull in the clutch lever. Problem solved. : )

The same is of the front brake lever too, but since it doesn't require as much action or as much force it is much less likely to cause irritation to the wrist.
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Daveinm
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You don't know what wrist pain is. Try spending 3 to 5 hours a day on a dirt bike. Not good for the a$$ either: )
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Bake
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do a few hrs in the mountains on an old Laverda 750....it will make make you think your Buell has a hydralic clutch
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Gaz
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 02:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Slaughter : Clutch is the same with the Muller kit, just the lever at the clutch end that is different.

Coped with a track day ok. No slip.
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Ara
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those grips with the barrel shape make a wonderful difference. When you grip anything, the hand naturally assumes a shape that isn't matched by a cylindrical shape but is matched by a shape that's larger in the middle than on the ends. (Curl your hand around an imaginary object and look at your palm and you'll see.) I've had them on my S3 for many years and I highly recommend them.
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Stealthxb
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Stone Mountain HD/Buell has modified a Sportster easy pull clutch that you may be interested in checking out.
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Xb12scg05
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys thought I would share something I tried and Ilike it .I bought an extra handlebar clamp turned upside down and mounted under my handlebars. This brought my bars up about an inch which allows me to rotate my bars towards me without contact with air cleaner cover,it also allows me to sit up a little more goes good with my Spitfire wind screen
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Along4theride
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same problem and posted about it. The GM at Stone Mountain HD saw my post and the next time I saw him he said he had it worked out for me.
They took an Easy pull Clutch off of a Sportster, modified it and put it on a City X to make sure it worked.
After 100 miles it was ready to go on my bike, which it did.

I LOVE IT!!!!

I highly recommend getting one!!!
SMHD will probably sell ya one and send it with installation instructions for a minimal cost.
Talk to Cameron 770.979.7999
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Buelltroll
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How minimal?
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