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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is a test in the MSF class. They time you through a couple of markers and then measure your stopping distance. The marker time establishes your speed, and there is a table to corralate that speed to a "good" stopping distance.

I would like to recreate this test. Does anyone have the dimensions and the conversion table information?
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Blackxb9
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No sorry I don't, but I believe you can go out to the testing site and measure for yourself. I took my test in a local college's parking lot, and the course is all marked off with spray paint. Or try this number (800) 446-9227, they may be able to help you out.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In Ohio, it matches the state test, which are published in the driving test book. Not sure if it is online or not.

One thing of note... in the 20 or so people I watched the test, exactly two (me and some guy on a sport bike) actually hit anywhere *near* the speed you were supposed to be going before starting the braking. The tester never said boo about any of them.

So the lesson there is if you have to err, you probably won't get penalized for going a little slow, but absolutely will get penalized for stopping in too long a distance.

I was the other guy that actually hit the required speed, and was on an old crappy Yamaha Radian with lousy suspension and soft brakes, and stopped so hard the flakey carb floats cut off the gas and killed the engine, which cost me a point for "stalling it", even though it was a mechanical issue and not an operator issue.
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Cruisin
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's the link to the VT DMV test. Includes the course layout and the test sheet with the table of speeds:

http://www.aot.state.vt.us/dmv/documents/Manuals/Motorcycle/2004/TAVN007aPart1.p df
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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Shandon

Reep - LOL, when I took the MSF class my main complaint about the Blast was that it wouldn't idle slower. Running around the course at 10 mph seemed like flying.

I'm not sure if the version of the test you are describing is the same as the one I took. In mine the "correct" stopping distance was calculated as a function of how fast you were going when you entered the braking area. That is why they timed you between the first set of markers. They did have a minimum speed, but I think it was pretty slow.
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Jlnance
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cruisin - Thanks! Thats what I was after.
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Koz5150
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The day I took my MSF course riding test it had rained on the asphault parking lot. The first two riders to do the stopping test dropped their bikes and skidded by the tester. I was number three to go and was one of the few who passed. I thought it was a bit unfair till I was riding home that day in the same conditions wondering if the two riders before me would have dropped their bikes at every stop light?
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