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Boom_fist
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I知 in need of new friction plates as I can feel my clutch slipping under hard acceleration. After some research, is Barnett the only option out there? Nothing else is even coming up for a replacement clutch...

Any feedback on the Barnett kit? Like/Dislike? Would like to purchase one ASAP, but would like to hear some feedback first.

Thanks,

-Tom
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Willmrx
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have used three Barnett kits. What worked for me was, Barnett plates, stock springs.
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Thursday, March 14, 2019 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Willmrx sez..stock springs ( Barnett's springs are toooo stiff)
a) the friction plates have small carbon fibre pads (vs the old Barnett stuff that looked like cork)...being carbon fiber ( hard and smoooth) they tend to polish the steel plates over time...I had to jitter bug sand my steel plates to get them to slip so I could shift into neutral...otherwise I could not get the bike to shift into neutral ( the plates were stuck ( stiction) to one another at low RPMs)
b) soak them in oil before you install ( follow the instructions)
c) check your slave cylinder ( the one down by the clutch) for leaks...might be time to upgrade to an Oberon kit too.
d) change your oil ( new oil , new clutch pack)
e) if you have a shop manual...read it over to understand the first steel plate install and the last fiber plate install...other wise very straight forward ( like a rice burner)
f) there are some youtube movies on the slave cylinder...might help with the clutch pack R&R
hth
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Boom_fist
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks guys!

Is there a place where I can buy JUST the friction plates then?

I'm due for an oil change anyway so it's a good time to knock it all out.

My slave cylinder isn't leaking, but I've thought of that too. If the Oberon kit wasn't so darn expensive I would just replace that while I'm in there. I guess I'll inspect it and then go from there.
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friction plates only? = No...Barnett sells a "kit" only...if you're short on cash and have time ...try my jitter bug sanding hint on your steel plates (80 grit) and maybe (320-400 grit) on the fiber ones to knock off any "glaze"... change the oil too...hth
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Boom_fist
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I mean, I want to fix the issue so if I need to spend the money I will, but I知 always up for an alternative.

Maybe I値l take it apart and inspect it all. If the plates have some meat left I値l try your sanding method. If they池e beyond reviving, I値l just order the kit.

Any tips on doing this clutch job for a first time Bueller?
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Snacktoast
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OE parts are still available from H-D dealers.

X0030.1AM - clutch friction plate, qty: 9
X0015.1AMA - steel plates, qty: 9
X0014.1AMA - steel plate, 1.5mm, qty: 1
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Willmrx
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 01:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CG0007.1AMB clutch springs,qty 6
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Shoggin
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I resisted the Oberon slave for a long time because:

'It's expensive, and how different can it be!?!'

WOW! DO IT!
I put it in my super stiff 1190 and the clutch pull is HALF of what it used to be. Tested with a luggage scale. legitimately HALF and equal to the XB that has a brand new cable on it.


Page 36...

https://www.buellxb.com/forum/showthread.php?53018 -Well-Bye/page36&highlight=oberon+slave
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Willmrx
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems the price of the oberon has gone down.
https://st-paul-harley-davidson-buell.myshopify.co m/products/oberon-clutch-slave-cylinder-for-1125-m odels
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Shoggin
Posted on Friday, March 15, 2019 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now you're just taunting the OP.

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Pwillikers
Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience with two different sets of the Barnett clutch for the 1125 has not been good. I've installed two separate sets (friction and steels) and both never disengaged fully always dragging. Both sets misbehaved identically. I swapped in the OEM springs with no change.

I eventually installed an HD OEM clutch (used the stock springs) and it has performed perfectly since. I suspect the Barnett stack height was excessive.
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Tuesday, March 19, 2019 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 Pwillikers post...finding neutral with the barnetts is a PIA...gotta make sure I'm rolling and engage neutral BEFORE I come to a stop...gonna try the Oberon fix (I have the HD fix in now) hoping it will increase travel of the pull rod to disengage those plates...
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