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Fresnobuell
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2014 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Race Tech suspension book recommends a wheel chock to set sag. The wheel chock I use has the front wheel 1 inch to 1.5 inches higher then the rear. Will this not reduce the front sag readings? More weight on the rear because the front is higher.

I did some quick measurements and this seems to be the case, although with stiction, my findings COULD have been misleading.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Copied from another thread....the OP is MKE


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I've never really liked the way my 1125r front end felt on the street. And by street I mean crappy city streets. So, I'm thinking about rebuilding the front suspension. Right now they click under braking, and seem to not have much in the way of compression damping or pre-load, regardless of what the settings are.

I vaguely recall that there were some changes to the 08' spring rate during the production run, so I don't know which springs I have, but I do know that the preload is completely maxed out and regardless of the damping setting, the front end often bottoms out while riding in the city.

So... I want to rebuild my front forks, but I want to rebuild them specifically for street riding on crappy streets. I never take it to the track, but I do like to rip around the poorly paved canyons in Southern CA.

I'd appreciate any input into oil weights, spring size/rate, the fork position in the triple tree, or anything else that would make my R ride smoother on rough roads.

p.s. I'm about 200 lbs


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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe you must have the second version of the springs as they were softer, IIRC.

But still at 200 lbs with max preload and compression damping, it seems strange you are bottoming as bad as you are.

HOw much money are you wanting to spend?

The cheapest solution would be to get stiffer springs and perhaps heavier oil....and from there you could drop alot more dough and get some fancy new cartridges or a revalve of the stock cartridges (cheaper option.)

There will be more ideas coming from the more knowledgeable folks here.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stole this from http://www.rg3suspension.com/revalve.htm


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Stock suspension is rarely set-up for your unique height, weight, skill level and type of riding. Whether you ride supercross, arenacross, motocross, supermoto, desert, GNCC, trail, enduro or hare scrambles, you are not getting the most performance out of your suspension unless it is set-up for the type of riding you do.

The wrong set-up results in either too harsh a ride or constant bottoming with unpredictability, less traction and cornering ability, lack of control and confidence in your bike.

This service includes all the work involved in a rebuild. Additionally we modify the internal dampening features to give you a customized set-up for your individual weight, ability, riding style and type of terrain encountered. Because our settings are individualized your support does not end at the time of delivery. We will work with you to make your revalve optimum for you with unlimited phone support and rework if needed.

Get your Moneys worth. Upgrade with Smart Valves.
The RG3 Smart Valve™ is like nothing ever done before in suspension valving. Using two different sized fluid damping ports instead of one, RG3's Smart Valve is capable of flowing the proper amount of fork fluid for the speed at which your fork is traveling.

At low speed, the Smart Valve gives a controlled flow of fluid which handles the vagueness or mushiness often felt at this speed. On the other hand, at high speed, fluid flow is often choked which gives a spiky feel to your ride. The Smart Valve is able to provide enough fluid flow at high speed to handle the spiky feel.


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Sprintst
Posted on Tuesday, November 11, 2014 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone had the rear shock rebuilt?

My suspension setup guy said I need to respring for my weight, but felt the forks would suffice, but I need to do a better rear shock.

I was going to go the EBR Showa shock, but the price has skyrocketed on it and now you can't get it

The Elka seems like the next more affordable option, but have seen some bad reviews. Ohlins, Penske and the rest are all pretty high dollar

(Message edited by sprintst on November 11, 2014)
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