| Author | Message | ||
     Mrsuperbuckets |
I'm pretty new to the 1125 family, I have had a xb12s for a few years. I was going to convert my r to a cr because i like the cr look, but after a step back I realized I lack the time. So I ask you all of the badweatherbikers forum, what can i do to my 1125r that doesn't take more than a few hours. Have: gpr steering stabilizer drummer exhaust chrome wheels Buell factory half fairing EBR race ecm crg shorty levers New brake pads (Message edited by mrsuperbuckets on August 11, 2014) | ||
| Two_seasons |
3 bearing rear wheel. American Sport Bike sells them. EBR for upgraded front rotor hardware. Supposed to make a BIG difference. Get the forks serviced. More than likely, they need some love! Dunlop Q3's. Before you put the new Drummer on, pull your oil sump screen for debris. Run a magnet over what you find. | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
What is the benefit of a 3 bearing wheel? Also does anyone know if the pirelli diablo rosso corsa tires are any good? | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Leonard(Mrsuperbuckets), for me the best bang for the buck from what you have is the EBR race ECM which should only take you about 1/2 hour to install and do a TPS reset and for an extra couple of hours the Drummer exhaust. That alone will make a huge difference in performance if all is done accurately & carefully. My custom exhaust and race ECM virtually made my 1125R come alive and the way it should have been from the factory due to EPA regs. And be aware the Drummer will add a very distinctive sound! | ||
| Dannybuell |
K&N air filter? | ||
| Froggy |
The 3 bearing rear wheel uses beefier bearings in addition to a 3rd set and external dust seals. While it doesn't seem to be as problematic on the 1125 as it is on the Ulysses, the rear bearings can prematurely fail. The 2010 wheel design beefs it up in every way to prevent failures. It is highly recommended if you tour or see frequent rain or offroad. For most street riders, the stock wheel is fine, I just recommend checking the bearings every tire change. That said, best bang for your buck mod is the EBR ECM regardless of your exhaust choice. Easy to install even by a monkey like me, and really brings the bike to life. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Can someone in the know elaborate on why this new hardware makes a difference? Where is Jim Dugger? Would this upgrade be for the track or would regular street riders feel a difference? I would add to your list the brake rebuild kit from EBR as well. This make take a few hours by itself, but I just pulled apart my caliper over the weekend and the pistons were nasty. Some came out easily with compressed air and some I had to yank out with pliers. I am guessing they should all move relatively freely in the bores. This service was LONG overdue and I am wondering if a sticky piston might have contributed to my crash in December. IMO, this should be on the scheduled maintenance list. | ||
| Rodrob |
The EBR brake mounting hardware improves brake performance by improving heat transfer from the rotor to the wheel. This is done by sacrificing the floating mount of the stock rotor, with an almost ridged mounting of the EBR rotor to the wheel. The penalty is a much higher tendency for a slightly warped rotor to cause pulsing in the front brake. The stock wheels have as much as .030in runout tolerance which is way too much for the EBR system. I would suggest checking the rotor mounting points on your wheel to check that they are <=.003in of each other prior to committing to the system. Once properly set up, the system works great. In hind sight, there are other brake mods I would do first for the street, not the track. New/better pads. Better MC EBR rotor on moified stock mount. I have not tried this, so I don't know if it will work, but I am going to test it this week. (Message edited by rodrob on August 11, 2014) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Rob, I noticed the EBR kit does NOT come with new springs. Are we supposed to re-use the old springs or do without? Thanks, you have alot of insight! | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Also, would you suggest the finned rotor for the street? Or is this just more unsprung weight without the benefits, as there isn't enough heat generated on the street to justify the finned rotor? Also, what about the "old" mounting hardware (new of course) in combo with the finned rotor? | ||
| Rodrob |
Stock springs are substituted with spring washers, which provide far less float. See my edit above. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Thanks, I did see those "spring washers" in the new hardware. Just little cupped washers. Now it's starting to make more sense! | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
Would getting the bike dyno tuned be worth it? I know that my xb12s was at 111hp when I got it and after a dyno it had 132hp | ||
| Fresnobuell |
You have a great tuner or an optimistic dyno (or both.) The 1125r with a pipe and EBR ECM puts out about 140 RWHP. | ||
| Jdugger |
> Where is Jim Dugger LOL. As Rob stated, the EBR kit dramatically reduces the float of the front rotor compared to the OEM arrangement. The benefit is more of the waste heat from braking is dissipated through the wheel itself. This dramatically improves the heat handling of the brake system. I don't think it's all that necessary for a street rider, but even "intermediate" track day riders at a braking-oriented track may find a completely stock 1125r brake system insufficient. It's an inexpensive and quite nice upgrade. I do recommend you heed Rob's advice about runout. The original Buell wheels were not manufactured to precision tolerances, and it shows up from time to time when you migrate to the EBR parts. I've found solutions in shimming the set up and in having the mounting tabs remachined true. | ||
| Froggy |
Unless you have some kind of crazy cams or bored it out, no. The Race ECM is available for many exhausts, and while a proper dyno tune will get a little more power out it than a premade tune, realistically you won't see a difference unless you are paid to race. At that point you would have a custom setup anyway. Also, 132hp on a XB12? The only ones I know of putting down that much power are extensively modified, like Ericz's turbocharged one. That is XBRR territory. | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
my xb12s had some.....extensive modifications, When i was done it was more of a xb17s I pulled out the thunderstorm engine, found a engine from a fatboy and basically forged my own cams, connecting rods, cylinder heads, pistons, and a custom fuel injection system, and a ecm that I programed myself. but after i did all that i just wanted to see how much hp and more importantly torque that my custom engine made. i got it dyno'd before the engine swap and it made 111 if i remember correctly, and after it made 132 hp and 178ft/lb of torque.......lets just say there is a reason that bike got wrapped around a tree. it took me about 2 years from start to finish with that project between work and my home life. i used it for drag racing and that was about it. sadly that stupid tree jumped out in front of me! | ||
| Froggy |
That is pretty awesome, if you still have pics of it, be sure to post up on the Xboard  | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
i lost that bike last year to a tree,i had a iphone "the original" and lets just say the phone didn't make it, and i didnt have itunes, so if you want to say im lying i dont blame you,I have no evidence but i will search and try to find a picture of the build | ||
| Froggy |
Nope I don't doubt you at all, there have been a few other extreme builds like that over the years, I just love seeing what people can do with these things. 178ftlbs must have been a hoot coming out of turns! | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
I had to extend the bike 9 inches just so the front wheel wouldn't be in the air all the time.... That bike was my pride and joy but as we all know trees are very dangerous and they all voted for obama! | ||
| Wymaen |
I, for one, am impressed that a 13-14 year old has the engineering knowledge, the facilities, the time, AND the money to build such an amazing custom bike. Please keep us posted in your future builds. We're expecting big things. Mrsuperbuckets Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 12:50 am: Hahahahahaha yeah I just turned 16 a few hours ago but don't be afraid fellow buellers "insert Ferris bueller joke here" I have been riding since I was a wee lad started on a trail 90 and now I'm on a bike that runs 9 second quarter miles hahah..... Actually now that I think about it that's a scary thought.. | ||
| Rick_fears |
He's 16 man. Get it right. Sheesh. | ||
| Matteson |
No, " august 4th 1988" that would make him a liar and 25. | ||
| Johndb |
His profile shows a 1988 birthday, which puts him at 26. Plus, you can't be a U.S. Marshall at 16, unless you were a character in an old Western on TBS. | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
yep I'm sorry guys for the confusion i posted that in a sarcastic tone but as it is the internet, my tone didn't come across...... sorry guys. Im not to familiar with the ways of the internet yet so please be patient with me. | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
when making my bio instead of writing 1988 i hit the 9 key and put 1998. everyone makes mistakes and for people like me with big hands that happens a lot. | ||
| Matteson |
Im 28 and was born in 85 that's why I wrote 25. I don't know. So how old are you bucket? Welcome. And happy bday (Message edited by MAtteson on August 13, 2014) | ||
| Mrsuperbuckets |
26 my birthday is august 4th, and happy that the people on this forum are so understanding and nice. | ||
| Skntpig |
How did you fit the Fatboy motor in the XB? 1700cc. Nice. |
