| Author | Message | ||
     Noobuel |
So I opted for a stator from Rick's as opposed to rewinding myself. They no longer take cores and rewind them and resell, they now advertise their stators as new and that they manufacture them. Mine came in today and I was disappointed to learn that they are made in Taiwan, even more disappointed when I saw the epoxy job. For those that have done this before, or have used Rick's stators, are the below images typical? Do I have anything to worry about? I was not expecting to see exposed copper. I have the EBR oiling rotor, so the Rick's stator should have the warranty, but I'd prefer not to have to repeat this job again in the near future. Also, what did you all use to adhere the lead to the case like the factory does. I wasn't sure what that gray material was or where to source it. I assumed it was more of the epoxy that was used on the wire, but wanted to confirm with the brain trust.        | ||
| Mhpalin |
I am no expert but I would be contacting them with those pics that does not look right. Mike | ||
| Dennis_c |
I got mine from Rick's with higher temp. wire about a year ago. It had a clear coating on it. | ||
| Noobuel |
Yeah, they only offer the "Hot Shot" stator now, which is what I bought. It states that it is wound with a high temperature wire, the whole reason for paying for it as opposed to a stock replacement. http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/part/21-026H/M DlCdWUxMTI1Q1I= | ||
| Shawns |
Send it back  ...make them send a return label | ||
| Hildstrom |
I used Permatex Ultra Black RTV Silicone to adhere the lead to the ignition cover. You can get it at most auto parts stores. I doubt you're seeing exposed copper, just exposed insulated wire. You can verify this with a multimeter, just don't press hard or use sharp probe points that would damage the insulation. I didn't use anywhere near 100% epoxy coverage on my DIY rewind, as you can see here:  Mine is still running strong 5000 miles later. As long as the exposed wire is insulated and not bare copper, I wouldn't worry about it. | ||
| Noobuel |
I sent the same pictures to Rick's and they assured me that it was a typical specimen and that there was nothing to be concerned about. Guess I'll install it and roll the dice. If it fails within the year I'll just have to make use of the warranty. | ||
| Shawns |
I guess it would be ok, as long as it doesn't flake off and contaminate the oil. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Yeh thats pretty disappointing that they are farming stuff out to asia. Someone at Ricks probably no longer has a job now. What are the other options? Im about to do this and i really dont want to use ricks now. Is there a list of other vendors that actually do the work themselves? Can we get a compilation going? | ||
| Crowley |
Try Stevie Wonder. I'm sure he could do a neater job  | ||
| Hildstrom |
Figorvonbuellingham, Here's the "Stator Rewind Options" thread: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/684861.html?1377620261 | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Wow, for some reason i was thinking there were more options then that. I contacted a guy who winds stators for for Honda CB,s and he said he would give it a shot. Not sure I kept the message. Ill have to dig around. | ||
| Dennis_c |
Ricks use to use Cycle Electric Inc. in Dayton, Ohio 937-884-7300 that's where mine was done for $165. a year ago. I don't know if they do it for anybody off the street or business only It's worth a call. | ||
| Reepicheep |
That's cool! I looked up where Cycle Electric is, and it's right on my way to my parents house. Looks like they are in what I recall to be an old meat packing plant, which is actually kinda cool when I think about it. I bet their air conditioning system is killer!  Let me know if anyone uses them and has a good experience. It would be nice to know a good local rewinding service. | ||
| Dennis_c |
My stator went to Ricks in Calf. and then Ohio to then back to Calf. then back to Ohio about 50 miles from my house  | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
I couldnt find that email so I must have deleted it. Did a google search and there are some other places doing them. Place in Ohio would be much better. Eliminate the middle man. | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
Reepicheep- I have put over 9,000 miles on my stator from Cycle Electric, I also inspected it around 2 or 3,000 it looks very nice. I also went w/ the upgraded EBR rotor, I don't even pay any attention to my charging system anymore. | ||
| Hildstrom |
I just called Cycle Electric. The person I spoke with said they don't do rewinds, just new stators. He said they don't have anything for the Buell 1125R. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Heres another one but they are kind of spendy. I guess you get what you pay for. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Guess a link helps: http://racetechelectric.com/p-10524-rewinds-rd.htm l | ||
| Noobuel |
Notice how the ones on their site have the same green coated plates as the one I got from Rick's? I bet it's the same Taiwanese supplier. I also called them last year to see if they would do a rewind for Buell since they are local, down the street from my work, and they told me they wouldn't. Maybe they have changed their tune. | ||
| Figorvonbuellingham |
Actually the race tech ones have a clear coating or at least it seems that way to me. Doesnt look anything at all like ricks from what I see. | ||
| Noobuel |
Feel free to call them. As I said, last time I called them they were not interested in doing a rewind for Buell. | ||
| Andros |
Why not just going with ebr og twin motorcycles rewind. We know it works. Worked for me. I have the TM version and the craftsmanship of the rewind was very high. Better than stock. | ||
| Noobuel |
I did go with the EBR rotor, and I suspect the Twin Motorcycles rewind is actually sourced from Rick's. If you read the description on the Twin site, and caveat about the warranty only being intact if you update the rotor, they are copied directly from Rick's website. Both EBR and Rick's are here in U.S. and I didn't see a price, time, or quality advantage going with something that had to be shipped overseas (potentially twice Rick's -> Twin -> Me). | ||
| Phwx2 |
That looks exactly like the one I got from them last month. I am installing it now. I too thought it was made here by us, not elsewhere by slaves/children/political prisoners. | ||
| Foxy_1 |
I have used these guys in the uk http://www.westcountrywindings.co.uk/ Not sure if they ship or would be competitive on price to make it worth while | ||
| Noobuel |
They used to rewind them and have a core exchange program. Now it looks like they have outsourced production (like so many things these days) and are selling them as new, not rewound. | ||
| Clip |
I'm in the market for purchasing a stator from ricks and noticed on the website he offers a version that's rewound in the USA by a ricks technician for 299.99. I'm thinking about going that route considering the pics of the one you received. I hope it is worth the extra money. Can anyone here chime in if they purchased the USA version from him and if it is worth going that route. | ||
| Mrbaz |
I’m trying to decide what stator to put in my 1125 so I called up Rick’s Motorsport and got to talk to Rick. He told me the Buell stators that are made in Taiwan are made on a state of the art Japanese auto winding machine. They use the same insulated high temp wire that Rick used to wind here in the States. I asked about the uncovered wire on the machine wound stator and he explained it to me this way – after the stator is wound, it is electrostatically coated with a dry powder and then current is passed through the windings to heat them. This melts the powder coat and encapsulates the winds. The powder coat job is to hold the windings together. The wire is already double insulated. I asked about the hand wound stator made here in the States and he said they build it on a brand new laminated stack because the plates on the old stator have a tendency to warp and bend. So, now I have to decide if I want to send $225 for the machine wound or $299.95 for the one made here in the US. He said the warranty is the same on both: 1 year. Also interested if anyone has sprung for the USA one & what they thought... http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/buell-stator |
