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Jeffcoyle92
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Took my 2008 1125R out Monday and got stuck at the local gas station. I ended up needing a jump to get home and assumed it was a bad battery.

In true dumb-ass fashion, I ended up grabbing an old 2009 Firebolt's (previous bike) battery and hooked it up to the wrong terminals. Doing this instantly started the fan for a few seconds but then the bike went dead...

First thing I did was changed all the blown fuses. After doing this The ECM lit up but the bike wouldn't crank. It would just click like the dead battery.

On Tuesday, I went to my local HD dealership and changed all 3 relays, (Part Number 31522-00C). The only relay I did not change was tyco relay VFM-15F71-S01 because it was not in stock. It was 5$ so I just had them order it for me... I replaced the relays and gave it another shot. Bike now cranks but will not turn over. I'm getting a "Fuel System Error".

I have a couple of questions:

1) besides the fuel box and relay box is there another fuse or relay off the pump that I might need to replace?
2) Does anyone know what the tyco relay VFM-15F71-S01 controls?
3) I'm going to run through the fuses again when i get home but does anyone have any other suggestions?

Thanks again,
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the new battery wasnt the huge mistake
the huge mistake was the person putting the battery in incorrectly
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Jeffcoyle92
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah, Well said hybridmomentspass, unfortunately your response won't get my bike running again...
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Northernyankee
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They Tyco Relay controls the starter so if it is cranking then that one is good to go. The other 3 relays are for Key Switch, Ignition and Auxiliary.

Do you have the exact DTC that it is popping for the fuel system?

Also send me a PM and I can send you a PDF of the Electrical Manual.
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Jeffcoyle92
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PM Sent, I'll cycle through the codes tonight and update the post.

Thanks again.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Diodes in this bike?

If yes, they should be in the fuse box. Replace all.
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Kevmean
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you might find that it has fried the fuel pump ...somebody else did the same thing and from what I remember it had to have a new fuel pump because of it .
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When you turn the key on do you hear the fuel pump prime?

I was looking in the archives, someone did similar on a XB and it just needed a new key switch fuse.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Found someone who did it on an 1125, looks like the same issue you are having, same fuel pump errors. He didn't post what the solution is, but I suspect the fuel pump needed replacement

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/562641.html?1380137201
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Jeffcoyle92
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think it has diodes or else it would still be dead right, preventing any current until replaced?

I'm hoping its not the pump, but I deserve it. The Pump is not priming when I turn the ignition on.

Thanks Froggy, You're the man. I sent him a PM.
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Northernyankee
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If it is the fuel pump its not too bad of a job...just have to remove the swingarm to get to it. You can knock it out in a weekend.
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Kevmean
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.ukbeg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=474 7&hilit=1125+fuel+pump
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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think reverse polarity would hurt the fuel pump. You should be able to test it by connecting power directly. Pull the fuel pump relay and connect jumpers to the two pins that go to the fuel pump. Connect the other ends of the leads to a battery and the pump should run. Oh yea, you need to figure out the correct polarity, so you should probably look at the electrical diagram first. If it doesn't run with power directly across it, then look into replacing it.

Check the fuse block as suggested for diodes. There may be one or two and they may prevent a relay from picking up or cause some other issue.

You may also have to replace the voltage regulator. Last time this was accidentally done to a car of mine, that's the first thing that blew.
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Jeffcoyle92
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2013 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All signs are pointing to the fuel pump. I confirmed with another brainless friend that made the same mistake.

Found a used one on eBay for $100. Just asked to confirm how many miles were on the bike the pump came off of before I buy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-BUELL-1125R-FUEL-PUMP -/400579558402?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&ha sh=item5d4466fc02&vxp=mtr

Current Codes I'm Throwing Up:
COMM ERROR - U0001
Fuel PMP SYS ERR - P0629
IAC SYS ERROR - P0506

Also called the stealer who quoted 550$ total (250 for the pump) 3 hours of labor...
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