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T_man
Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2013 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi Guys, its been a while (had my 1125R in storage until I moved out of the prairies and into the mountains). Anyways, I have an E-B-R Ecm and an HPE race exhaust which I ordered when in SK (alt. ~2000ft) I am now living near sea level and the damn thing will barely start.

I highly suspect it is running rich (as it is backfiring on start). So to the point; In the past I had used ECMspy to adjust fuel globally and just logged onto their website to re-download and noticed a mandatory 'donation' to get the software again. Essentially not free. Am I missing something? Anyhoo... worst case scenario perhaps I need to send it back to E-B-R for a reflash.. what does that cost? Thanks
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Noobuel
Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2013 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Recent reports have said $80 for reflash.
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Spike240sx
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 05:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From what I understand, EBR has done a good job at locking out their ECM's to being accessed by any program except for theirs.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 06:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IDS is shortly making available a tuning system for ALL Buell/EBR motorcycles and will be sold through EBR.

Not free but it does look like now that HD and its lawyers are out of the loop, this is now possible.

http://idspd.com/prod04.htm

You can even download PDF manuals.

Release date is supposedly soon.
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Jossi
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hi in March last year i pay 35$ for reflash
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Sportster_mann
Posted on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slaughter posted -

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IDS is shortly making available a tuning system for ALL Buell/EBR motorcycles and will be sold through EBR.

Not free but it does look like now that HD and its lawyers are out of the loop, this is now possible.

http://idspd.com/prod04.htm

You can even download PDF manuals.

Release date is supposedly soon.




from the link posted that appears to only be a diagnostic tool, it will not let you amend the ECM.
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Thefleshrocket
Posted on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't get http://idspd.com/prod04.htm or www.idspd.com or idspd.com to display anything. Not sure what's up, but I'm curious to see what's in the pipeline.
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T_man
Posted on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Snapshot of my 1125R w EBR Ecm adjusted for 105% AFV(The Cold start enrichment seems a bit high is this normal?) . I need to adjust the AFV back down to 100% or lower.. as described earlier; I either need the most recent version of ECMSpy before it became 'not free' by virtue of mandatory donation, or someone to walk me through in the simplest of terms how to fetch or hook up to the bike in TunerPro. I have TunerPro but have been unable to link to the bike.

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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, September 04, 2013 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sportster_Mann - you are correct. Reads diagnostic codes and enables TPS re-set.

False alarm. Sorry about that! (hey, I'm a guy, I don't read instructions)
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T_man
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for those who tried to help me to get Tunerpro RT to work, unfortunately I had no success on that front. Looks like a great program - likely more robust than what I needed it for though.

That being said; I did have success with good ol' ECMSpy - I found my original copy (which turned out to be the same version you can find online 'gratis' if you look hard enough). I simply launched ECMSpy into professional mode, then tracked down the values that govern AFV's in the EPROM, changed them back down to 100 (in hex) uploaded ONLY those changes and voila - a good running (and starting) bike again. Verification in diagnosis mode confirmed to boot. Anyways, I just thought I'd share that the problem has been solved with an old version of ECMspy on an EBR Ecm.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, September 07, 2013 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a very limited functionality of old ECMSpy and 08+ ECMs.
You can reset the TPS and you can delete historic codes.
It will accurately read your sensors also but CANNOT change Spark or Fuel maps.
It can download the maps in the ECM but cannot write as the memory locations changed with each rev of the ECM firmware.

Zack

Oh yeah... it CAN write to the ECM but it doesn't know where to put the info.
As I said, each rev, the Buell engineers changed the memory addresses for the maps.
That was where Dave from Ohio got involved and wrote a translation program that worked but ran into political issues.

When it really started to get ugly, EBR came out with their now famous race ECMs and the world was in harmony again.

(Message edited by zac4mac on September 07, 2013)
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