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Easyrider
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is for all the Buell 1125R and 1125CR 2009-2010 riders with a stator problem. We fixed it.

We are curently working hard to, find good solutions for the fried buell 1125 09 Stator problem. In a few weeks we can deliver the TM rewind Stators from stock, and are working on a core Rotor with EBR oil jet modifiction in it.

Rebuilt Hot Shot Buell Stator:

*This stator is wound with 240 degrees C wire (vs. 200 degrees C stock).

Core required in advance


**Before installing this rebuilt stator, be sure to get the upgraded version of the Buell rotor. Otherwise stators will continue to burn & will not be covered under warranty.

we still ask you to ship the old part as core replacement to us before we send you out the replacement unit.


http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=5295&cid=0&s=&a=&aname=Buell_1125_ 09_Stator_rewind_
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is great news.

Would buyers send their core stator to your new Texas location or to your Netherlands shop?
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Easyrider
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2012 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

for this year still Netherlands

add like

Twin Motorcycles
Edisonweg 44
3404 LD IJsselstein
NETHERLANDS

Be sure to mark REPAIR PART WARRANTY
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Andros
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Dris. You should sell a kit containing the stator rewind, drilled rotor, gaskets, nuts and bolt, locking pin and possibly a better voltage regulator and instruction. All you need to get the problem solved once and for all.
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Theshinenz
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't the oiling rotor fix the problem though? Props for a good quality rewind but thats not the main problem here. There are already quite a few places to get good quality rewinds yet as far as I know EBR are the only provider for the oiling rotor. I just don't think saying "we fixed it" is appropriate unless you've fixed it without the use of the ebr rotor.

That aside I think its great that twin motorcycles continues to support Buell Owners.
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Easyrider
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All details can be found here http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=5295&cid=0&s=stator&a=&aname=Buell _1125R-CR_09-10_TM_BURNT_STATOR_FIX

When we have the first production ready we have a more detailed story and more pictures. In a early fase of product development it goes like this.
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Believer
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 02:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 with Andros.

I'm from Slovenia and It's not easy to get all the parts from 3 or 4 different countries. Please do the kit.
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

QUESTION TO ALL OFF YOU.

When we make a kit, would you like us to add exhaust gaskets en the O-ring for the oil cooler hose.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dris -
Do you remove the oil cooler when you do this?
I've done 2 stator/rotor R&Rs and I just roll the cooler out of the way.
The fittings rotate.

Zack
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Theshinenz
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Normally you just disconnect the lower oil coiler line to get it out of the way of the cover, I've taken mine of twice and never had a leak. But I guess best practice for a low cost item would be to replace it to make sure.

Scott
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Mac_inger
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have not done anything towards fixing my charging problem yet,..i would definitely be a buyer if, as people have mentioned here, this is a complete kit, maybe with instructions.
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Believer
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my opinion. I think that exhaust gaskets and O-ring for oil cooler isn't very expensive, so it would be more yes then no to put them in a kit.
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Tbowdre
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the oil cooler and exhaust are both quite a distance from the ignition cover and do not not to be disturbed to service the stator or rotor. The oil cooler hoses, however, are in the way and can be removed by the pulling the little clips that hold the hose in the fitting. Assembly is the reverse. I've had my cover off at least 4 times and the hoses do not leak.

just my 2 cents, YMMV
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Baf
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just pop the clips on the oil lines like Tbowdre said.

I will add to his instruction though... put the clips back on the fittings immediately, that way you don't worry about losing them. They don't need to be off for reassembly, as the oil lines will snap right in with the clips on.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, November 09, 2012 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's what I'm talking about.

Cover off, lines up




Cover off, lines down




I went to Lowes and got 6 bolts.
Cut the heads off and "sharpened" them in my lathe... alignment pins




Z
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Easyrider
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's Not about how we badweb people do it (-:

Its more about if it would be a requirement to be in the kit?.
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Believer
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Easyrider, how is going with that kit? Will be available? If it will be, what do you think it will include?
- high temperature stator rewind
- drilled rotor (like EBR)
- gaskets
- nuts
- bolt
- locking pin
- better voltage regulator
- o-ring
- instructions

That would be a nice kit, of course with the right price.

Did I forgot something?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you can find some 1 oz tubes of Loctite 272 and 648 to include, you would have a turn-key kit.

Nice idea Dris.
Didn't mean to derail with pix, just an easier way.

Zack
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Sprintst
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm confused, why would you pull the exhaust?

I had no need to pull it. I did pull the oil cooler, but I could see doing the rotation method
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Sparky
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"why pull the exhaust?"
I understand that the stock muffler blocks the port to install the Crank Locking Tool.
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Andros
Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2012 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, Beliver, yes Zac4mac!
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Believer
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So Easyrider, is there anything new about the kit maybe?
Is it on your plan to do it or we will have to go the hard way?

Nice day
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Easyrider
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The part is ready

info concerning our parts can be found here: http://www.twinmotorcycles.nl/webshop/artikel.asp? guid=YXHFSC&aid=5295&cid=0&s=stator&a=&aname=Buell _1125R-CR_09-10_TM_BURNT_STATOR

the questions can be send to info@twinmotorcycles.nl

(Message edited by easyrider on November 28, 2012)
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On your website shouldn't it be loctite 272?
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Terrys1980
Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You need both 272 and 648. 648 is for the rotor nut.
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Believer
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good work, thank you.
Just one more question, is the "Buell 1125 09 Rotor upgrade oil jet" on your shop page modified exact the same as ebr, or is it different?
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Theshinenz
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 03:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty sure you'll find the 272 in for the ROTOR NUT and the 648 for the sprag clutch bolts. Dont get it wrong it could cost you.
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

please check the manuel for the correct procedure ( only the TQ value is prefered to a higher level, according to EBR's experience with the nuts running loose )
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Easyrider
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

believer,

In the Rotor the extra upgrade oil jet hole is not 100% identical to the EBR rotor, but functions the same (we changed diameter, angle and collecting hole and a larger diameter start hole to match the crank outlet better )

Because of the time and money involved in shipping these back and forth ( little bit off a logistic nightmare ) We let a local tool maker (shop) perform the work for us exclusivly, to keep the cost low, and that will benefit for our customers
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Andros
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome initiative
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Andros
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good stuff but i still miss a package and deal price if you order EVERYTHING:

- high temperature stator rewind
- drilled rotor (like EBR)
- gaskets
- nuts
- bolt
- locking pin
- better voltage regulator
- o-ring
- loctite
- instructions

Would be lovely to take some of the nerdiness out of it so one could do the whole job with one package and one order.
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Easyrider
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mail us: info@twinmotorcycles.nl with that request and we make you a good price.
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Andros
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Dris.
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Easyrider
Posted on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Locktide is 272 in the kit now.
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