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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am trying to accumulate all the stuff I need to do my 12K service and was wondering
if anyone has found a good source (ie Cheep) for the insulating tape so I can do the inside of my frame while the motor is out of the way.

Also anything else that came in handy to do/ have on hand for the service? would like to do it all in a weekend once I get started
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Dannybuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EBR recommends http://www.aerogel.com/
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Noobuel
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which product, the Pyrogel 2250, 6650, XT, or XTF?
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Dannybuell
Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, I don't remember any specifics.
Why not email ebr at
mailto:info@ebracing.com
and get back to us?
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Sl33py
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did anyone find out which aerogel EBR recommends? I'll try another search to see if it turns up, but if you found out please update here.

I'm just about 1.5k away from my 12k check and would love to add this while in there.

rob
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Sl33py
Posted on Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Found it. The search function on badweb is pretty much useless. I prefer typing in a google search with site:Badweatherbikers.com Aerogel heat - gave me the link to find this:


quote:

The insulation added to the 2009 and later 1125 frames is quite effective,and dropped the stabilized frame temperature roughly 10 degrees in testing at Harley's Arizona proving grounds. It is 2mm Pyrogel 2250 from Aspen Aerogels, and it is the most effective insulation you can buy. The Pyrogel is packaged in the shiny material to preserve it and allow it to be bonded to the frame. The insulation was placed at just the highest areas of heat transfer into the frame (i.e. near the hottest hot spots on the engine) for efficiency. However, for race bikes, we covered the entire inside of the frame with the same insulation, and while we never made objective tests of this, it undoubtedly kept the frame and fuel cooler yet.

The other thing that racing showed was that an insulated rear header also reduced heat into the frame, though this was never quantified and wasn't required when the racing radiator air-paths changed so as to not duct hot air from the radiators between frame and engine. The reversed flow path on the DSB bikes using Canadian bodywork, and the ducted path on the 1125RR substantially dropped frame temperatures to the point where fuel evaporation was not an issue even with some quite volatile racing fuels that had histories of boiling, in, say, CBR600RR fuel tanks. ; )

As for the fuel smell and fuel dripping, the single simplest thing that can be done with an existing bike is to install the carbon cansister. There have never been complaints of either from California 1125R or CR riders.




From Anon Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:04 pm.

Now off to see the 2250 Pyrogel specs and how much i need to order.

rob
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Sl33py
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ugh... anyone in Seattle want to split an order?

Only found on pacorinc.com site:

regular 2250 - $150 for 56"x5'
http://www.pacorinc.com/zen-cart/index.php?main_pa ge=index&cPath=17_20

2250 "sprayed two sides" - same size $250.
http://www.pacorinc.com/zen-cart/index.php?main_pa ge=index&cPath=44_49

yikes.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I did mine I used something different. Not entirely sold on it yet so I won't be sharing what but I can tell you this I used far more than 56” with a 5” width. I did the entire inside of the frame though.
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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't bought anything yet
but have been looking at different heat barriers,

Boogiman, you really used that much?
I was hoping a 15 foot roll would have been enough
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Boohoo
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have use DEI Cool-tape and Reflect-A-Cool in the past and was very pleased with the results. I will most likely use them again on my R. comes in multiple sizes
http://www.designengineering.com/category/catalog/dei-cycle/insulating-materials/reflect-cool

zuki air box
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Sl33py
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

When I did mine I used something different. Not entirely sold on it yet so I won't be sharing what but I can tell you this I used far more than 56” with a 5” width. I did the entire inside of the frame though.




it's 56" wide by 5' (feet long). I hope that's enough to split with someone else...
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Phlegm
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How bout you just use this http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16130.html
Comes 36"x24". I wrapped the entire inside of the frame and I still have some leftover pieces.Worked great for me

(Message edited by Phlegm on September 21, 2012)
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2012 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't remember exactly but I think I used close to 8ft
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