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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was exercising the CR a bit more this weekend riding nothing but twisties following my buddy with his brand new ZX1400 for over 100 miles. With rougher roads than I am used to, my ziptie on the front fork was pushed down, way down. I noticed the front brake got firmer/came in earler as the afternoon wore on.

Was it that the pads were all warmed up or what?

THX
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Mackja
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ziptie should be about 1.5" to 2" from the bottom, if lower put in a little more preload. Check your brake fluid level, if your level is to high as it expands from getting hot it will put pressure on the caliper making the lever feel firmer. If level is ok, then it is normal, no problem, ride the hell out of it!
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> Ziptie should be about 1.5" to 2" from the bottom

IMHO, on a bike with a bit over 4" of front travel, this is too much. Ideally, they are about 1/4"-1/2" above the bottom after the hardest braking zone.

Even on the street, you want to be operating the forks in the middle of the range. If you have 4" of travel, and give up 25% to rider sag, then 1" above the bottom would be "about right".

The Buell brake system does firm up, provided the fluid is fresh, as it heats. So, this is normal.

The OEM Master Cyl is really a pretty lousy piece of kit, so if you are good on the brakes (any color in the rotors, basically), you should consider upgrading it. A used R6 MC is a good choice on the cheap, or the Brembo RCS19 works well on this bike...

This will help the brake feel tremendously.

(Message edited by jdugger on July 10, 2012)
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Mackja
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Determine the point the fork bottoms out, this will differ from 5mm to 15mm or so from the casting depending on the fork. When under your hardest braking your ziptie should be around 10mm from bottoming point, you have to know the bottoming out point on the fork to do it right. My two cents
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Jdugger
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

> you have to know the bottoming out point on the fork to do it right. My two cents

Agreed. We took the forks apart and machined the AK-Gas cartridges 10mm higher than stock so the bike would have more front travel and bottom a zip-tie's width from the end of the fork tube.
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

THX guys
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