| Author | Message | ||
     Boogiman1981 |
okay in the search for better braking i stumbled into http://goo.gl/QL7Fb yeah i know you get what you pay for buuuuuuuuuutttttt | ||
| Dannybuell |
Let us know how it works out and if a BREMBO rebuild kit works. | ||
| Spike240sx |
Is your life really only worth $90? Some knock-off stuff is understandable, but a master cylinder? | ||
| Duphuckincati |
I see by your profile you appear to have three little daughters. You can't afford to not have top notch equipment on your motorcycle. Big •••••• time. What makes you think that $90 master cylinder will improve your braking? | ||
| Juniorkirk |
H0507.1AMD Master Cylinder, w/ 3, 11, 12, 13, 14 & 15 MSRP: $123 3 Piston Set 11 Lever Kit, front brake w/N0203.9 12 Pivot bolt kit 13 Cap Set 14 Clamp 15 Switch kit, brake lever "Is your life really only worth" $123? I would use it for awhile in a NON race style riding, that way if something DOES go wrong, you have gears and rear brake to stop you. | ||
| Cycledoc59 |
There's another side to that; $200-$500 is ridiculous for such a simple device. Just because that one has a reasonable price does not make it junk.... There's more to a good decision than price. And, at that price, why worry about a rebuild kit? | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Cyc and junior that's kinda my thoughts as well. A lot of things coming out of china are cheaper not just because of lower labor costs but because they are in fact copies, the engineering $$$ has already been spent. I think I'm gonna try it and see. Will report back with results. As for my kids yep they are in my profile pic but that's really as far as me discussing or being talked to about my family goes here or anywhere online thanks for your concern though. | ||
| Kruizen |
Ok so what are the benefits of an aftermarket master cyclinder? I have changed the pads for my last track day and am still not happy. Not gretting into china or no china. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Better action through a change in leverage. Bore and stroke changes plus a change in the way the plunger is moved, parallel to the bars(O.E.) vs perpendicular to them(aftermarket). (Message edited by boogiman1981 on March 28, 2012) | ||
| Zecca |
I have a brand new Master Cylinder.. let me know if anyone want... | ||
| Avalaugh |
I've had alot of issues with brake fade, I'm now on my 3rd MC, 3rd caliper set up, along with different pads and discs along the way. I'm now happy running Yamaha R1 gold spot calipers, stainless lines, and the business end is a BREMBO RCS 19 master cylinder. It was expensive but, well worth the stopping power and feel provided. I would try a $90 replica though, as said all the hard R&R has been done, and if you looked into many top shelf items, they too are produced in the far east. | ||
| Cycledoc59 |
Might be a good place to comment that from right after WW2 up till the late 60's, most everything coming in from Japan was junk. And we all know how that's changed... I might just try a set of those clone controls myself. For what it's worth, ebay feedback is all positive for them. The original Buell controls are antiquated, old-school one-piece lumps; but even $400+ for Nissin controls is not practical for many of us. | ||
| Nuts4mc |
here's what i did ... Hayabusa MC (the older busa's had 6 piston calipers...2 calipers/side...the MC is a 16mm...works well) http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/633593.html scroll down for pix salvage yard busa MC - $45, rebuild kit from bike bandit $35, new brake line $100. it moves more fluid - but it requires more "torque" to squeeze...which is OK with me...and yes the switch fit the wires without any rewiring | ||
| Kruizen |
Has anyone pulled the trigger on the op part??? | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Not yet funds are super tight | ||
| Kruizen |
Ok Brice, I pulled the trigger on this today so should have them in about 10+days I'll post up Picts and review during/after install | ||
| Dannybuell |
Kruizen ~ great! | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Suweet | ||
| Kruizen |
So I went chinese on my bike over the last couple of days. Bought the levers/banjo switch directly from their web-site. I emailed them a couple of times asking questions and I typically received a response the same day, around 7-8pm eastern time. I bought the damper on ebay and received an email the next morning that one I had purchased was out of stock but they had an identical substitute ready to ship out if I wanted it.never-land First impression: cylinders/levers seem like decent quality, were a little lighter than the Brembo RCS units I have held. The levers rattled a little bit once installed, so I pulled the pivot pins and re-used the OEM ones and just tightened them down a little-FIXED. Like having a bleeder on the top by the cylinder. Wasn't really happy with the packaging but it seemed to work. Measured the resevior and it seems to be 45ml the same as what Brembo sells on their site Stabilizer weighed a couple of pounds- smooth action, packaged well when received Both items were received approx 10 days after purchase. Installation: I had to rotate the cut off switch housing in order to fit the banjo bolt. I did this by drilling another locking hole in the bar 1/4" further around.-pictures I bought the brake light banjo switch from them as well. I did have to rotate the Front brake line 180' in order for the banjo to fit properly. and the line to route properly. Had to locate both the the units as close to the triple clamp as possible to allow the levers to clear the fairing mount. I'm still having issues with the clutch bleeding. Riding the bike it is fine has a good feel, just stationary the clutch drags a little. See my other post about clutch bleeding. The steering damper took at little more work installing, I had to create new steering stops which limited the rotation by about 1/4-1/2 inch. This helped with the damper and the levers from hitting the fairing mount. I drilled the holes in the bracket in front of the instrument cluster, then tapped them to allow mounting. Costs : damper $148, misc. bolts/steering stops $15.00, Fork clamp $40 about 1 hour to install after figuring out the proper location Levers $178 plus $15.00 shipping - they say free shipping but handling is something like $4.00 an item $20.00 for a bottle of new fluid. www.photobucket.com/brombolevers | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
brake feel modulation? do you do track days? or have otherwise twisted road around that would stress this thing? i do track days and am working my way into racing but have no real 'stress test' roads around. | ||
| Kruizen |
Yes I do track days, that was the primary reason I wanted to try this. As I've had issues with fading the last couple of track days. My pads are shot right now and won't have better pads until next week. Not stressing anything yet, just making sure all is working and there isn't anything going to bind. Going to try and give them a good shake down next week or maybe this weekend. My next track days are 5-21/22 at VIR. So far they have a nice progressive feel, and if I actually had pads i think they would be great. Clutch felt a lot better after my ride today. Some pretty nasty fluid came out. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wouldn't ask or expect you to stress it until you felt comfy. i just rebuilt my stocker for $16 and it's much better due to the rebuild but i know it's not going to do what i want it to | ||
| Kruizen |
just did 2 days at VIR North with these. Overall not bad, pretty happy. rebuild front caliper with new rings and pistons as my old ones were not retracting. Burned up a set of $100 pads at one track day earlier in the year before I figured that one out. New SBS race sinter pads installed the first track day. Overall I think that I need to purchase a bigger resivor and possible have "a little" fluid getting past the seals as every now and then in the paddock it would get soft. I never lost confidence with them on the track tho, when moving they worked well! I guess that I didn't tighten the resivor bolts tight enough as I lost both of them during the day(zip locks worked great) to hold the resivors in place. the levers rattle major at the pivot bolt area. I am going to try and fit a tiny plastic washer in there. sorry about "resivor" spelling I'm beat after 2 days at the track and am to lazy now to look up the correct spelling. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
very cool thanks for the update | ||
| Tmchcrk |
How about the steering damper? | ||
| Kruizen |
Did its job, didn't play with it to much. Was really working on other things, so I kept it realativly soft. At these days had new: tires(power ones) higher profile, new brake pads, new master cylinders, new steering damper. Had to play with my suspension a little bit, between all that and some personal training with a coach it felt like an entirely new bike. | ||
| Thefleshrocket |
Need more info on the steering damper. Brake master, I'd be hesitant to cheap out on but a steering damper for sub $200 is definitely worth looking into. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
lol i'd be more hesitant on the damper...if it locked up you're pretty bad boned. same could be said for master but stopping without a front brake is not always easy but doable steering locked on the other hand. you're def getting off the bike | ||
| Kruizen |
It is adjustable 24 clicks, I had it at about 7 clicks. So it was firm but not hard, Packaging very professional Finish very nice I've put about 900 miles on the damper, both slab ing and corners and now track days. I did have to put larger steering stops on in order to accolades the throw of the damper. There was a review of a similar damper on another site, so I felt pretty comfortable. Once again great communication from the company, from the start of the transaction to be end. Very personable even woth some minim language issues. And Even when they told me he original damper was sold out, and this one was being substituted. I'm going out on the back roads over the next couple of weeks and will focus on working the damper and let you know. I know that we have all heard the wives tale about the Chinese dampers locking up. But I've never seen a post or even a first hand account of it happening since I've been riding. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Me either was just responding to the post above. You got the damper from the same place? Xincity? I ask because there isn't one in their store on ebay or their own website that I could find. |
