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Zecca
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What do you think?

I'll make mines, someone would like ?

tomorrow I'll post pictures
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Kinder
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll stay interested till pics. ; )
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

have my interest as well
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Tsnake
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

great interest from europe!
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Zecca
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

first pics...

stator cover out of mold

clutch cover still in mold






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01fxdx
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd rock those with a little spray paint!!
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Zecca
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wait for carbon fiber finish!!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zecca, you are going to need to be come a badweb sponsor if you are going to be selling these for profit. If you are just selling them for the cost of materials you are free to do so.
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Timebandit
Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2012 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Time to smackdown: 9 hours, 16 minutes.
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Zecca
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cutting




carbon without resin




carbon + epoxy resin


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Tq_freak
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interested .... as long as it doesn't break Badweb Rules.
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It doesn't, I discussed it with Zecca via PM, he is good to go. : )
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks good. How much shipped to us zip 32244?
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Timebandit
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rules? I'd probably buy them under the table if I had to.

Just thought I'd ask a question about construction -- am I right in understanding that the basic construction of the protector is kevlar fiber and that the carbon fiber piece on top is just a laminated covering to give the product "the look"?

I'm wondering how much the finished unit weighs, in comparison to the stock unit from EBR. I honestly don't know whether the one that EBR sells is 100% CF or if it's also kevlar + CF, or how the weight might differ. Maybe someone who knows more than I do about this can chime in.

As far as protection goes, how does kevlar alone compare to CF alone, and is your CF top layer even necessary to provide protection, or is it primarily added for appearance? I'm not one of those guys who care about the bling factor, I just want something sturdy and it doesn't have to look like a CF to make me happy.

thanks.
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C818919
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Id take one for each side....
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

time they are carbon kevlar there are pics of them rashed running around you can see the yellow kevlar inside
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Zecca
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will be very likely that my caver becomes heavier than the EBR... I dont have a autoclave to extracting the resin excess

Kevlar is much more difficult to work, no one can cut it with comom scissors

carbon fiber is not resistant to abrasion .. only have mechanical resistance!

the carbon fiber is only for "the look"
to only kevlar covers, leaving aesthetics aside, it would be cheaper! about 70

look this pic
I do not know the name of this tool in English
but the abrasion is very strong, easily destroys metal

Kevlar can withstand about 15 seconds before drilling
carbon fiber becomes practically powder



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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The tool name in English is an angle grinder. And nice pics to show the difference! Pic=1000 words
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Zecca
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hehehe sorry for my english
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no worries
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Battyone
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh yeah cutting kevlar! what fun! I've got "special" scissors for kevlar - cost me £60 a few years back- and it's still difficult.

what about vacuum bagging Z ?

I'd make a double sided mould and put it in a vacuum bag to squeeze all the excess resin out.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks good. Any chance of a tighter weave on the carbon?
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C818919
Posted on Friday, May 25, 2012 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a kevlar looks bad ass....I'd take it with out the carbon.
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Tsnake
Posted on Saturday, May 26, 2012 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

me too, too shiny the carbon!

(Message edited by Tsnake on May 26, 2012)
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Lospice1
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm interested!!
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

to clarify - its 90 each, correct?

I am interested, good to see people taking DIY approach to this
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Frinzo
Posted on Sunday, May 27, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much for both shipped to 70037. Thanks!
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Zecca
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

non-carbon edition!

its very difficult to do a nice finish without carbon

but if someone like, $ 70 each is the cost







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Timebandit
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like them!

Z, have you considered putting the flanged bearings into them that JD had mentioned? they help to protect the kevlar from being chewed up by the bolts.
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Zecca
Posted on Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm thinking to put a washer passing through the bolts hole

what do you think about?
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