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Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:14 pm: |
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does anyone else think its hard to get rid of the chicken strips or do I need my suspension tuned!? I can scrub my buddies 600's tire all the way to the edge with no problem but my bike always has a 3/4 strip!!!! I've tried a 190 and 180 I see no difference its still there! |
Albert666
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:24 pm: |
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sander? i got rid of mine but only from track riding |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:27 pm: |
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haha Im not embarassed I just can't figure out how I can do it with ease on a 600 and not my 1125 Ive got over 20k clocked on these but she hasn't been to a track. I was just curious if poor suspension could cause this or the geometry of the bike... |
Ratgin
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:32 pm: |
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Track.. only way to throw it over that far that ive seen |
Chessm
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:35 pm: |
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lower the PSI in the rear tire look for a god curve and push the bike down below you supermoto style then power out of the turn. repeat as necessary and that should get rid of the chicken strips on from the rear tire. that or just dont worry about it. personally i think its cooler when someone has chicken strips and yet they leave everyone behind in the twisty stuff. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:36 pm: |
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hmmm well i guess Im heading to mid ohio then! That wouldn't explain how I do it on other bikes on the street though! but they do weigh less and have a steering stabilizer maybe thats why! |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:48 pm: |
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yeah thats whats strange I have the strips but im right with my buddy on a 1050 triple and a bmw 1000 and theres are gone! I just wasn't sure what the deal was! |
Ratgin
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:50 pm: |
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Ive never figured out why strips are a big deal on the street. IMO Street racing is for organ donors. Always got a laugh at guys asking why your leathers dont have pucks when your at the local coffee shop. Cause im wearing street leathers? |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:58 pm: |
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to each his own I guess I have several twisty roads here in ohio that have open fields on both sides and a clear view of the road ahead. But I do understand some roads are just asking for something bad to happen! |
Jdmagri
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:12 pm: |
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If your just trying to scrub it in I might recommend a very clean (no stones or oil) parking lot that hasn't been seal coated in a couple years. But if you're not hitting that in the turns then what's the point of scrubbing it in? |
99buellx1
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:19 pm: |
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quote:to each his own I guess I have several twisty roads here in ohio that have open fields on both sides and a clear view of the road ahead.
And no power poles? Fence posts? Marker posts in the ditch? Cross roads? Houses? Dogs? Gravel from the truck that just touched the shoulder? Zero reason to ride more than 6/10th's (if that) on the street. Too many uncontrollable variables that you will NEED those extra 4/10th's to ensure you can safely avoid them. If you are using ALL the tire, and need to adjust your line, where is that extra lean going to come from?
quote:but they do weigh less and have a steering stabilizer maybe thats why!
Has nothing to do with it. Get to the track, you will wish you had done so years ago. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:21 pm: |
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If its normal than fine but what I'm really asking is could something be affecting my handling performance if they aren't getting scrubbed to the edge or is this normal? Im comparing this to other bikes that I ride and scrub to the edge. What would cause me to go to the edge on them but not mine? does this mean I ride my bike slower than the ones I've scrubbed to the edge? Or does my bike not need to get that far over to make the corner at the same speed? |
Ridegreen2oo
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:26 pm: |
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Do you know the size of the tire or brand of the tire on your friend's bike? Maybe it just likes turning in easier. In my pursuit driving school we were trained you only drive at 80%. We were taught that on a closed course with no hazards, and we were told never exceed 80% of your ability. If you get into a situation, you still have a little bit of ability to get yourself out of the trouble. It's like a built in margin of error. If you are at 100% of your ability and you hit that "oh no" moment, you have no reserves. I have about 1/2"-3/4" of chicken strips on mine and I'm ok with that. It's when I see the sport bike with 2"-3" of strips that make me smile and ask how it's even possible to lean so little. (Message edited by Ridegreen2oo on May 23, 2012) |
Jdugger
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:33 pm: |
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Lots of reasons why a tire might not get scrubbed to the edge. On the new Dunlops I run, I am setting personal bests and still leaving a titch of chicken strip. The same times on other brands of tires would have had boogers forming off the edge of the tire. The Pirelli 180/60 tires are the same way. So tall you never get all the way to the edge, even on the track. It's a good thing. |
Dannybuell
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:44 pm: |
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I think your perspective is wrong. The other bikes have to be just about laid down to get through a curve whereas you don't have to go to such extremes to get the same response. as Jdugger said "It's a good thing". |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 02:51 pm: |
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im running bridgestone 003 racing street on the buell his is 2003 cbr 600rr running michelin pilot power |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 03:09 pm: |
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Lots of factors including chassis geometry and tire profile are at play here. If you are getting through the same segment of road/track faster than the 600 and using less tire, you are coming out ahead. |
Jaimec
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 03:14 pm: |
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I routinely scrub off all chicken strips from my rear tires... but the only time I've gotten rid of the chicken strips on my front tires have been at the track. |
Nuts4mc
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 03:21 pm: |
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the michelins are a soft tire (carcass wise) and may be the reason for the strip removal... put a nice hard Dunlop on the 600 and try it again george - you live almost "next door" to Mid Ohio...do a track day! |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 03:23 pm: |
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I know!!!! I love it I just started a business so cash is tight at the moment but you better believe Im saving for it!!! Thanks for all your info guys I just wanted to make sure im not losing performance! |
Stirz007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 03:27 pm: |
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I'd second some of the earlier comments. It depends on how/where you ride, track layout, tire profile, etc. With the Q2's, I'd typically have 1/4" or so chicken strips, no matter how hard I pushed - then again, I probably could have pushed further if I had bigger stones. Now running the Pirelli 'Red-Stripes' and am wearing rear to the edge - the front has a long way to go to hit full profile... "Getting rid of chicken strips" isn't my goal - reducing lap times is.....
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Duphuckincati
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 04:20 pm: |
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"Maturity Margins". |
Curve__carver
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 04:25 pm: |
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Come on an SE OH ride with me. There will be plenty of opportunities ti get rid of those strips. |
Stirz007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 04:28 pm: |
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Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 04:36 pm: |
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hit me up curve__carver im on the way located right off of 71! |
Pariah
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 05:19 pm: |
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Seriously, why care? Chicken strips just mean that you're conserving lean angle, which is actually a sign of decent riding skills. If you are leaning the bike over enough to eliminate strips you should a) have less than the normal 34psi front, 36psi rear cold tire pressures b) have some heat in those tires from accelerating and braking hard and c) be at the track, not on the street. Careful out there... |
Timebandit
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 05:21 pm: |
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"Chicken strips just mean that you're conserving lean angle, which is actually a sign of decent riding skills." ^^^ Yep. That's the whole point of hiking off of the seat. |
Georgehitch17
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 05:24 pm: |
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why do some of you have to cop such a attitude its a question. I got on this forum to ask a question and get a answer not a lecture. I didn't know the answer so I asked. Thanks again to all that were helpful and nice! have a nice day and ride safe gents! |
Pariah
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 05:40 pm: |
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After a recent trackday, I still have about a half inch of chicken strip on the rear, and almost an inch on the front. After a track day! Now, I don't consider myself a fast rider by any means, but I would never ride on the street like I did at that track. People here aren't being cops, they are just trying to warn you... |
Curve__carver
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 06:25 pm: |
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You can safely get the the edge of the tire on the street. Not near any population centers, but on the hidden backroads. There are many factors involved including body position, tire profile, etc. Most weekends we start near Cleveland and ride to SE OH. PM me if you are interested. |