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Boogiman1981
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:17 pm: | 
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i'm guessing projected cost based on repairs thus far? |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - 04:42 pm: |
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Look at the bright side -- you're getting your money's worth out of the warranty. |
Guard_rail
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 09:02 am: |
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But the down time is killing me. When she's running I feel untouchable. When she's down I feel like a wounded deer lost in the Forrest. I want HD TO MAKE ME AN OFFER!!! Pay off the bike. Give me 5k for my troubles and pro-rate my extended Warrenty returning the unused 2 1/2 years.
So nobody else here has gone thru this yet??? I'm the first??? |
Baf
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 09:34 am: |
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WTF are you doing to that thing? |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2012 - 02:57 pm: |
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quote:I want HD TO MAKE ME AN OFFER!!! Pay off the bike. Give me 5k for my troubles and pro-rate my extended Warrenty returning the unused 2 1/2 years.
You are dreaming in Technicolor.
They'll probably refund your warranty if you elect to terminate it. But if you want them to buy the bike and give you $5k for your troubles, then you're going to have to sue them. Period. Nobody's going to buy back the bike and give an opponent $5k out of the goodness of their heart. To get them to do that you'll have to compel them, and there's only one way to do that -- the courts. Trying to embarrass them into paying you off just because you're complaining about a brand that doesn't exist anymore is pointless. You can't hurt them and they know it. They have no reason to fear you.
Unless you take definitive action then you will never amount to anything more than another guy who is whining about H-D on the internet. Whining and trolling doesn't scare H-D into action. Whining is futile. |
Iamarchangel
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 08:19 pm: |
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I only ride 10 miles to work 10 miles home 2 or three times a week!!!
This is the problem right here.
Wrong bike. Take any sport vehicle and turn it into a short hop commuter and see what will happen.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Still, when it's all said and done, it's your choice. Choices have consequences. |
Tom_b
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 08:34 pm: |
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i feel your pain. some bikes are just lemons and sounds like you got one. My 99 x-1 had stuff break on it. My finalstraw was when the engine grenaded at less than 15k. the cases where the crank bearings ride were so ovaled out they had to remachine the caaes and make custom bearings. the shop said they ad NEEVR seen that before. Even asked if it ad had LARGE amounts of nitrous run on it |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 08:35 pm: |
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Now we went from $14k to $52k?
Froggy
Part where he said over the period of the warranty seemed clear to me.
Average of 8k a year over a 7 year period.
These bikes are not the most reliable vehicle on the road.
Myself id sooner have an XB12 at this point. Ive going tired of every week something else breaks.
When you pay 12k for a bike id like to get atleast 1 trouble free month of riding }over 4 years but thats a complete pipe dream.
(Message edited by ratgin on May 20, 2012) |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2012 - 09:37 pm: |
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My heart goes out to you guys who can't get a decent summer out of your bikes. I can't help but think that some of the other comments have to bear an element of truth -- if you're having that many problems then maybe you're doing something wrong.
I've read in the OP's other thread that he rode 600 miles with the CEL on and didn't worry about it. Maybe that kind of abuse gives an insight into the OP;s reliability problems. Those idiot lights are there to tell you that you need to stop to take care of something right away.
I've ridden mine hard -- really hard -- like the Angel of Death was on my tail trying to catch me -- and it's never failed me. The worst problem I've ever had with it has been the Low Fuel Lamp bug, and an occasional missed shift in going from 2 to 3 under WOT. My bike has been totally reliable. But then I don't commute with it, and I don't ride stuck in traffic. I just get out on the back roads and flog it. And I try to take good care of it as far as maintenance goes, staying well ahead of the maintenance schedules.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 12:14 am: |
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Timebandit
Mine not a Queen.
I ride it every day i can and that includes commuting. I try and avoid any gridlock due to the insane leg , foot heat this thing generates but i also back road flog it and have to pray it gets me home.
Ive never owned a bike so prone to issues.
I seriously picked her up from shop last year , rode home and stored her for winter.
Only to ride her on the first trip this spring and she throws codes and the VSS dies. I mean really? Gimme a freakin break.
Didnt i pay my dues with last years never ending stream of codes, stator, vr, clutch and shock failures? |
Battyone
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 05:36 am: |
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Anybody compared the vin no's on these obvious lemons? As some seem so much worse than others,maybe they were all assembled at the same time/by the same person????? |
Rogue_biker
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 03:26 pm: |
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I only ride 10 miles to work 10 miles home 2 or three times a week!!!
This is the problem right here.
Wrong bike. Take any sport vehicle and turn it into a short hop commuter and see what will happen.
I have been using my '08 1125R just like this--in urban traffic daily. My commute is not even 10 miles....more like 7.5 miles on way. No issues. I do the same on my VFR800. No issues. On weekends I do ride them long and hard, but not every weekend.
Any bike made for the street should be able to handle that. |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2012 - 04:05 pm: |
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quote:Any bike made for the street should be able to handle that.
I'm not sure that everyone would agree that the 1125 was ever "made for the street." I think that quite a few people would argue that it was conceived as a race bike, which then had the necessary parts hung on it to make it street legal and render it marketable as a "street" bike to people who were willing to drink the H-D marketing Kool-Aid. Nevertheless, the idea that all streetable bikes should be totally reliable remains an argument that people can't seem to agree on.
There's one camp that says that any bike that's sold as "streetable" should be totally streetable and totally reliable when used on the street in any method that they see fit. Extreme proponents of that school of thought might even contend that it's OK to use an 1125 with extreme gearing for parade duty because that's a "street" application.
The other camp says that it's not smart to try to force a bike that's purpose built for a specific application into working as a jack of all trades, especially if that involves making it work in ways that exploit it's weaknesses. Extreme proponents of that school of thought might content that it's foolish to commute on a race bike.
Like it or not, these bikes do have their strengths and weaknesses. I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to say that you're bound to run into problems if you spend a lot of time operating the bike in an area where it's a weak performer. I've never thought of the 1125 as a good commuter, and I try to avoid getting into those congested traffic situations whenever I can. I think that operating the bike in conditions like that is unnecessarily hard on the entire bike: engine, cooling, charging, brakes, clutch ... and the end result is always going to converge on a premature failure of some sort. I wouldn't be surprised when that happens.
With that said, if you want to make the bike a commuter, you can do so while it's under warranty without any fear of having out of pocket expense for the repairs that it's inevitably going to need. I guess there's nothing wrong in doing that while you can shove the responsibility for your decision off onto Harley-Davidson. But once your out of warranty and the repairs are on your dime, doing that just doesn't make sense.
To be one with the bike you have to listen to what the bike is telling you.
Just my $0.02. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 12:38 pm: |
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Time.
Bike was sold for street use even if its a "race bike" but even still.
Which bike is the least reliable as a "race bike"?
2009 R1
2009 CBR1000RR
2009 ZX10R
2009 GSXR1000
2009 1125R
I like mine a lot when its running.. it just not running well all that frequently.
Also please bear in mind some of us payed full sticker price. Buying it for 1/3 the retail price would help a lot with pain of service issues. |
Thefleshrocket
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 01:09 pm: |
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The 1125R is not a "race bike conceived for the street" or "streetable racebike" any other nonsense like that. There is nothing more aggressively tuned or designed on it compared to any other supersport out there. Mine does backroads duty and it does commuting as well. When commuting, I short shift the bike at 5K or less and it never complains. Sometimes I get stuck idling in traffic--I don't shut the bike off but the coolant temp still stay reasonable.
Parade duty might be a bit excessive, but it's still no worse than being stuck in gridlock. Sure, at some point (100F ambient in stop and go traffic for a long time?), the bike will probably get "too hot" and need to be shut down, but up until that point, it should idle, run and accelerate with no complaints. Just like mine does.
You guys who are convinced that you own racebikes that are just barely streetable can go on treating your bikes like that. But don't seriously try to convince other riders that their 1125s require special handling compared to any other modern supersport bike, because they don't. (Or at least shouldn't.) |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 02:51 pm: |
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Thefleshrocket
I agree. Only issue i have with this bike is the complete lack of reliability.
Sure i can likely solve that with a few thousand dollars worth of EBR parts but i shouldnt have too.
I paid 12k for this bike and if i wanted to throw on another 3-5k to make it more reliable id be riding something exotic like a MVA F4. |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:35 pm: |
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I paid 12k for this bike and if i wanted to throw on another 3-5k to make it more reliable id be riding something exotic like a MVA F4.
Really??? 3-5k? A little excessive dont ya think? The EBR stator is 1k. What else do you perceive necessary? Do you think that every other brand of bike is more reliable? They dont break down? Buddies 06 Gsxr1000 has had several issues with his clutch and it has half as many miles as my bike. Or another freinds 08 CBR with less than 2k having a hard time shifting into 6th gear. These are all high performance machines. They all have some issues. The 1125 is perfectly rideable just the way it is IMHO. Im coming up on 19k without any issues at all. I commute 30 miles or so round trip daily. It also is my weekend warrior and my roadtrip machine a few times a year. Its an absolutely awesome machine right out of the box.
If it doesnt suit your needs because of whatever reason, sell it, or upgrade to your liking. Complaining about it on an enthusiast board fixes nothing. Speculating your future expenses and inconveniences because of your stubborness just makes even less sense. I dont care if you paid full price or not, the point still stands. |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:51 pm: |
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When Erik, Tony and Mike conceived the 1125 they conceived a full fairing race bike. Any doubts? Just ask them. H-D corporate interfered a lot between the initial conception and the final product, but the end result is still a damned good supersport bike. |
Timebandit
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - 10:52 pm: |
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"The EBR stator is 1k."
EBR doesn't sell the low output charging system any more. Now they sell the oiling rotor exchange, which costs $175.
The cost to stop whining just went down. |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 01:41 am: |
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I am not sure the perceived shortcomings are based on a socio-economic circumstance, perhaps this is an old school~new school thing.
My 96 S1 had issues, every time it broke I was one jonseing MF.
As I wised up it got sorted out. Do not return to a shop that has to redo work.
I think that the HD bean counters got a batch of crap stators (my warranty stator has 15,000 miles).
HD came up with a band aid harness to cover the issue. Time has clearly explained the harness shortcomings. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 11:33 am: |
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Mines a pig plain and simple.
Its been back to the shop so many times they refused it on a trade in at any price.
Best offer ive had is 3k. If i could fix it i would but its endless differing issues. It is not a "stator" issue.
Its running like crap, endless codes, VSS, over heating, broken rear shock , clutch and on.
Now im a Buell fan so if anyone wants to put there XB12X or STT where their "fingers" are and trade me im game! |
Stlrdn
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 04:56 pm: |
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ive got an 09 cr and its bin nothing but trouble! there is a new flywhee,stator,plugs,02 sensors fuel pump and fuel rail sensor! and it it still has a nastey hesitation at 4- 7000 rpm with the stock pipe and ecm, and with the preprogramed race ecm and slip on pipe!
instead of recalling part by part, they should recall the whole freaking bike till they get it right!
ive had it! calling hd right now! i just got the bike back from a 9 month stay at the shop! |
Stimbrell
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 06:52 pm: |
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I feel the pain of owners of lemon 1125s, I have one myself, but posting about it here is not going to help, you will be told the problems you have are because you only know how to ride a Harley!, seriously that is something people who suffer problems with this bike are told often on this site! You will also be told total crap such as "this bike is such a race machine that commuting on on it is so stupid that you have only yourself to blame when it constantly breaks down", of course Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, BMW, Ducati etc all make faster and more powerfully bikes that can and do get used to commute all week and raced at the weekend with no problems but why let the truth get in the way of the excuses given for this flawed bike. I am sure someone will now tell me one of the manufacturers I have mentioned once had a problem with one of their bikes and fail to mention that the manufacturer stepped up and put it right. Of course I will also be told to go buy one of the other manufacturers bikes or told I am a something or other, because actually expecting the supplier, Harley Davidson, to do the right thing and stand by their product makes me stupid. |
Guard_rail
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - 08:47 pm: |
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She's not a bad bike. She's just misunderstood. |
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