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Punisher1125r
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow just did my first oil change on the 1125r. Ridiculous, I'm guessing its best to have a rear stand and not use the kickstand? Or use two people? I dropped around a full quart on the floor I even put foil on the kickstand lol so much for out smarting the oil change. Def the most awkward oil change I have ever done.
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Cutty72
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WOW, first oil change? Either you found one hanging in the back room, or you need to ride more!
Yeah, they are difficult, but get easier as the more you do. A rear stand is a definite benefit though.
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Stirz007
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Welcome to the madness! This topic has had a fair amount of discussion. Do a search and you'll find several ways to avoid making a mess.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Put the pan under the bike for the right drain plug, then put the kickstand in the pan and do the left plug, the oil will run down the stand like a funnel. I make more a mess refilling the bike than anything.
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Chessm
Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2012 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just did my 3rd oil change and it was not messy at all.

well except for removing the oil screen. that was a little bit messy.
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Punisher1125r
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I meant first oil change for me lol. Thanks for all the advice though. I will do a search. Thanks for the idea froggy I will be buying a oil pan, a big long oil pan lol.
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Chessm
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i used one of those disposable aluminum pans that you use to roast a turkey. you can get a bunch for super cheap and they are even long enough to catch the coolant when yo do a coolant flush.
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Punisher1125r
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll keep that in mind chessm thanks
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The left side is awkward. But yeah a rear stand will help.

Another cheap way is to cut a piece of wood that's about 2"x6" (2" tall) and put it under the sidestand to nearly level the bike. This will position your bike lean near vertical as you change the oil. However, it will still have a slight lean to the left for stability. I've used such a piece of wood to put my bike on the rear stand by myself too. It works like a charm and is very stable.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 30x40 something stainless catch pan can do the entire change without repositioning.
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Craigg
Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pitbull rear stand keep kickstand up. Easy and no mess. Need it to change rear tire and brake pads anyways
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Father_of_an_era
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, what Craigg said. Use the rear stand and keep the kick stand up. Get that long flat 30x40 pan and you will keep the mess to near zero. Good luck!
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Stirz007
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 03:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pitbull rear stand keep kickstand up.

+1 (works for me) - no kickstand now, but I found that to be clean and easy.
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Nuts4mc
Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2012 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

side stand SOP
pan and stand
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Timebandit
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Another cheap way is to cut a piece of wood that's about 2"x6" (2" tall) and put it under the sidestand to nearly level the bike. This will position your bike lean near vertical as you change the oil."

I use a similar trick to get my bike onto and off of the PitBull stand while working alone.

I tried using a 2x4 under the kickstand to level the bike enough that it would be easy for one person to lift with the Pitbull. The 2x4 wasn't tall enough to get the bike nice and vertical, which meant that the Pitbull would still be lifting a tilted bike with only the left side fork. I didn't like that, because lifting one side of the bike with the left fork of the Pitbull and tipping the bike while trying to catch it with right fork of the Pitbull seemed dangerous.

I found a thick brick that was just the right height to go under the kickstand, and make the bike almost perfectly level -- level enough that it's easy for one person to slip the Pitbull stand under the bike and have both forks catch the spools to accomplish the lift without assistance, and tilted enough that the bike is still stable on the sidestand. I just make sure that I keep one hand on the bike to prevent a tipover until the bike is all the way onto the Pitbull.

You could probably do the same thing by shimming a 2x4 with something underneath, maybe a piece of plywood. IME a small 2x4 is light enough to move / get dragged around by the kickstand as the bike is lifted or set down. The brick is nice and heavy and doesn't move while the bike is going up or coming down.

HTH
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Timebandit
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first 1125 oil change was an environmental disaster -- think Exxon Valdez. I've picked up some useful oil change tips here on the forum, and after doing it 2 or 3 times, I've become good enough at it that I can do it with a pair of coffee cans without getting more than a drop or two of stray oil. The key is to know what to expect, and take corrective steps to prevent the mess.

In addition to the tips already mentioned, I picked up another two on the forum that I think are really helpful:

1. Put the sidestand inside of a plastic bag from a loaf of bread or wrap it in aluminum foil to keep the oil off of it.

2. If you don't drop the muffler to clean the screen, you can put a sheet of aluminum foil over the muffler to keep the muffler dry, while bending it to form a channel to guide the oil down into the pan.

Once I bought the pitbull, I stopped messing with the kickstand. I just leave it up and out of the way. I do use aluminum foil over the muffler, though.
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Njdevils1990
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm on my 5th oil change and the first one I made a good mess of the left engine cover and my garage floor lol but now I got it down pretty well and creeping up on my next change in about a month (every 2,000 miles) but a long funnel helps with filling the bike, I first tried using a stubby one that I use for my truck and didn't go well but that and a well placed oil bucket and youll be set.
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Punisher1125r
Posted on Wednesday, April 11, 2012 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for all the help guys I think I'm ready 2 show this bitch whose boss on my next oil change. I have a bag of tricks now that I want 2 try out.
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Milt
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What was Rotax thinking: Two distinct plugs, two distinct crush washers.

Why?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should see what they did to KTM thumper owners. You have it easy compared to them. On some of those bike in order to change the oil you have to more or less mount the thing to a rotisserie. ; )
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Jbarron
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got a friend with a KTM SuperDuke and yes we do have it easy.

I just plan on a bike wash after changing the oil. Kick stand in a disposable turkey pan helps.
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Skntpig
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did my first oil change at 50 miles....How many miles does your bike have on it?
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did my first at 400 miles.
Had to wash and re-use the filter because there weren't any in the system yet.
About a cup stayed in the pan, the rest was on the floor. what a mess.

Z
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