| Author | Message | ||
     Zecca |
I have a 08R with 10,000 miles, My ecm is faulty.. recently I bought a used ecm with 18,000 miles, If I install this used ecm? my cluster will have 10,000 miles or 18,000 miles | ||
| Froggy |
The cluster will still show 10,000. The only time the cluster will obtain mileage from the ECM is if the cluster is brand new. (Message edited by froggy on March 14, 2012) | ||
| Zecca |
you mean "will still show 10,000" ? | ||
| Pmjolly |
This is interesting. People swap back and forth with the stock ECM and the EBR ECM all the time. When they put the bike in for service, they don't want to risk having an EBR ECM reprogrammed with a stock map. I wonder how this works also. If I were to put my stock ECM back in my ride, it would be thousands of miles different than my cluster. Hmmmmm. I know a new, never used ECM or cluster will 'marry' the other existing component, and show the correct mileage. | ||
| Gofastalot99 |
The cluster will still indicate the stock mileage if you switch in the stock ECM for the EBR ECM. | ||
| Zecca |
thanks Froggy!! | ||
| Juniorkirk |
If you put a new cluster on, it will learn from the ECM what the mileage is. If you put a used cluster on, it will keep what it already has on it and make the ECM have it's mileage. If you put a new ECM in, it will learn from the cluster what the mileage is and store it. If you put a used ECM in, it will also learn from the cluster what the mileage is and store it. | ||
| Pmjolly |
That makes it way too easy to change the mileage for people who purchased race ECM's early on. Most still have the original OEM ECM with low mileage recorded. A new cluster could mean new mileage on the odometer. Not good. | ||
| Ratbuell |
It's the same as an old analog cluster...nothing new here, just digital numbers is all. Cluster is mileage-dominant. Simple. Only way a cluster "learns" from the ECM is if it is a virgin cluster. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
Pmjolly, I can see your point. Someone could have taken their stock ECM out with 100 miles on it and got an EBR one. Then, when they go to sell a bike with 30,000 miles on it, all they have to do is fork over a few hundred bucks for a new cluster and when they put the new cluster on, put the old ECM on and when they pair up, the bike only has 100 miles. Takes a $4,000 bike and turns it into a $6,000 bike. | ||
| Fio835 |
That could be a problem | ||
| Pmjolly |
Yup. I would look very closely at condition in addition to odometer. You can tell if someone is trying to pass a high mileage bike as a new one. Look for the new cluster too. Hmmmmm. | ||
| Froggy |
I don't see the issue, you can do the same thing on just about any motorcycle. You can buy a new XB gauge cluster, they ask for your odo reading when ordering, not hard to say 300 miles. Or an old tuber with an analog odo, just swap it out with another on Ebay. It can be done on cars too to a certain extent, I've see dash swaps on Chevy Silverados, the Cadillac dash looks nicer, and drops right in and gives you a fresh start on the odo. It is usually obvious when someone is misstating mileage anyway. | ||
| Juniorkirk |
But with these bikes, if I were to buy another one, I would be looking for another '08, and one with a lot of miles on it. That way I know I dont have to worry about those little things going wrong in the early miles. If it's an '09 or '10, I would definitely look for one with a lot of miles on it, that way it says "I dont have any stator problems" or "all my stator problems have been fixed already" | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Juniorkirk, the important thing with '08's is that all their recalls be complete, and common issues fixed. The common issues are leaking clutch, turn signals failing, instrument cluster replaced, and maybe one or two things I've forgotten. Mileage is not really indicative of reliability. For '09-'10, stator, stator, and stator! LOL! | ||
| Juniorkirk |
Ya, I'm content with my '08. All recalls done, weeping clutch fixed, instrument panel replaced, rear turn signals replaced....(currently waiting on another cluster cause they think that's the problem with my LFL staying on all the time). And she has almost 18,000 miles on her. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Me too with my '08. 24k now. All recalls done and common issues fixed in 2009 by previous owner. |
