| Author | Message | ||
     Alaskacr |
Where should I get one! Thanks! | ||
| Tbowdre |
I found mine on amazon.com and it actually shipped from fey meyers motorcycle world in colorado. | ||
| Rt_performance |
Might want to look at this series. http://roadstercycle.com/Roadstercycle%20New%20Ser ies%20Regulators.htm | ||
| C818919 |
Id like to know the difference in the two products rt....?Do you need both?? | ||
| Jules |
Id like to know the difference in the two products rt....?Do you need both?? No... In fact you can't fit both simultaneously.. Roadster model is physically a bit bigger so needs a little more thought/fiddling when mounting. Both are considered good upgrades to the OEM "shunt" VR.. | ||
| Rt_performance |
the mosfet is good but not a series. The roadcycle series is usa built but needs to be put in the air stream. the compufire i think needs to be in the air stream as well and there custom service seems to be about as good as HD's | ||
| Timebandit |
The MOSFET term gets thrown around a lot, in an imprecise way that I think is going to confuse a lot of people. When sorting through all of this information, it's important to realize that the word MOSFET is not really that helpful in describing the regulator that the merchant is selling. The term "MOSFET" describes a particular type of semiconductor -- a generic Metal-Oxide-Semiconductor Field-Effect Transistor. This kind of generic transistor can be found in all sorts of devices, including shunt regualtors, series regulators, and switching regulators. From a practical standpoint, when a supplier is marketing their Vreg to you using the term MOSFET, their pitch doesn't really give you any useful information. You'd probably be best of ignoring the word MOSFET and looking at other details. When sorting through all of this information, try to recognize the deceptive marketing practices of some of the merchants for what they are; Some suppliers are leveraging the word "MOSFET" to try to exploit the confusion that it will cause for many people. "MOSFET" sounds fancy, and the expectation of some merchants is that using this term will make some potential customers think that their regulator is something more special than it really is. This is particularly true of Shitdungeon, who uses the term to try to put lipstick on that pig that is their shunt regulator. They try to use the word "MOSFET" to blur the distinction in the mind of the customer between their shunt regulator and a true series regulator, or a switching regulator. Don't be fooled when a manufacturer hypes the word "MOSFET" in describing their shunt regulator -- they're hoping that someone who doesn't know any better will confuse their shunt regulator with a more desirable, more electronically sophisticated series regulator and buy their product. You probably already realize from all of the posts on this forum that you want to avoid a shunt regulator at all costs, and buy a true series regulator. Be careful so that some merchants' don't pull the wool over your eyes when they tell you that their vreg uses MOSFET. What you really want to know is whether the design you're looking at is a shunt, series, or switching regulator. HTH. | ||
| Timebandit |
BTW, I think the Compufire would be a good choice. | ||
| Rt_performance |
I can't spell shindoe F000.....LOL | ||
| C818919 |
so is a series or switching better? or do the same job differently? | ||
| C818919 |
best ive seen is 179....differences between compufire and CE 605 SB Kit? avantages of the 40 amp vs 30 amp for the 1125r? (Message edited by c818919 on November 15, 2011) | ||
| C818919 |
http://badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290431/ 645402.html?1312734160 | ||
| Timebandit |
>> "so is a series or switching better?" Either a series regulator or a switching regulator would be better than a shunt regulator. They are different in that a switching regulator is a much more desirable design, in that when the bike is making voltages that are too low to charge the battery, but plenty of current, it can convert the output into higher voltages (that can charge the battery) at a lesser current output. Just as the design of a series regulator is far more complicated than a shunt regulator, the design of a switching regulator is far more complicated than a series regulator. Right now I'm not aware of any switching designs that are commercially available. The complexity of the designs, their bulk, their cost and the potential for reliability issues related to heat have made the brain-dead shunt regulator the most popular choice in the market, even though it may not be the "best" solution. | ||
| Timebandit |
>> "differences between compufire and CE 605 SB Kit? avantages of the 40 amp vs 30 amp for the 1125r?" I had tried to purchase the Compufire, but found it hard to locate anyone who had it in-stock. DennisKirk had the best price, but no available product. I checked with another on-line merchant who is popular in the forum links (can't remember who), and found the same problem -- great price, but no product. Finally, I contacted Compufire directly via email. I asked about available products and their tech specs. I was told by the factory that the Compufire 55402 is sold as a 40A regulator, but would actually handle 60A. The rep also said that it has the same footprint as the H-D 32A regulator. I asked the rep for more information about the product, including whether it was available for a direct purchase from the factory, and whether clipping the connectors would void the warranty. I also mentioned that I was looking to install it in a H-D product whose charging output was about 500W. As soon as I gave them enough information to figure out that I was talking about the 1125, the factory rep stopped responding to my emails. Take that for what it's worth. | ||
| Rt_performance |
After tbowder I think thats who's smoked in 6 miles. Compufire idea of warrenty was to sell him one at cost. over 100. I won't be buying there products. | ||
| Timebandit |
thanks for the info. >> "Compufire idea of warrenty was to sell him one at cost. over 100." Depending on whether or not their written warranty policy specifies that modification of the unit (clipping leads) voids the warranty, that could either be a good deal, or that could be a screw job. The problem is, it's hard to get Compufire to go on the record about what applications will qualify for warranty coverage and what applications will not. When I was asking the factory rep for application specs, he *suggested* that I clip the leads to use the Vreg in a different application. When I asked him if this would void the warranty, he refused to answer. I wouldn't mind buying the product if I knew the rules for warranty going in to the purchase. But I won't buy a product if the factory is going to be coy and not answer simple questions about whether or not they will honor their warranty. For me, that is a deal breaker. | ||
| Tbowdre |
The summary: R/R appeared to be working at idle in the garage 14.5V on IC, not hot. Went for a ride and after 7 miles "system voltage" on IC. back home the R/R was obviously fried, cracked the epoxy stuff on the back of the unit. there are pics here on badweb I reinstalled OEM R/R and everything was back to normal I spoke to their tech support and sent Spike Ent. the the fried regulator with the connectors as installed so they could make an evaluation First I was told No warranty for application of this product to a BUELL. Then they said they would have their service dept investigate further. A couple months later they told me the unit was probably grounded... somehow. end of story. Then they said they could help by selling me one at cost. Whatever. Ill take it. It seems like compufire had/has the best/most cost effective solution for '09 owners. I am honestly okay with the situation because I am so desperate for a dependable ride! The new compufire is working great, about 1000 miles and counting todd | ||
| Gofast |
To add to Todds experiance. I was talking/working with compufire to have the 55402 offered with the factory Buell plugs so it would be plug and play. They have my harness upgrade, plus the old VR and tons of pics ( Thanks to Finedaddy ). After Todds issue with his VR, Jim at Compufire quit responding to calls or e-mails. I still purchased the Compufire unit and have had no issue after 2K miles of use. Nope, not happy with there CSR, but used at my own risk. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
wonder what it is that scares them so bad about the 1125R? | ||
| Timebandit |
>> "wonder what it is that scares them so bad about the 1125R?" RPM!  | ||
| Yugi |
I ordered one from here a couple of days ago: http://www.chrome-addiction.com/p-compu-fire-regul ator-vltg-f-cmpfre-21120416-10040681.php | ||
| Tbowdre |
Gofast: I remember that a few months ago! You said they would be assembling yours with BUELL connectors and will make a plug and play available. I asked if they would put the connectors on the replacement they sent me and they said "no way, you are on your own". LOL! BUELL.... Man up: fix, engineer and maintain your bike! Thank god for American Sport Bike or no one would support us.... Oh yes and of course E.B.R. too todd | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
$173.39 USMOTOMAN, over 2,500 miles and still going strong. | ||
| Avc8130 |
Why bother with the Compufire? The company has repeatedly stated their product is not recommended for use on the Buell 1125. If you want to spend money on a series regulator, but the one made in USA with a company rep that will actually respond to your emails...even AFTER you tell him it is for an 1125. ac | ||
| Finedaddy1 |
"Why bother with the Compufire?" I done A LOT of homework before I put this unit on my bike and after visiting many bike forums and input from electrical guru Posplayr, from the Suzuki forum, I made my choice. One of the benefits of this unit is it's size and charging capability. BTW it doesn't know if your bike is a Harley, Buell, Suzuki, Norton, Bultaco or whatever it just functions as an electrical regulator and does it's job. | ||
| Avc8130 |
I hear ya about the RR not knowing what bike it is on...but the manufacture might. It would tick me off to find out I got a bad one out of the box and for them to reject a warranty claim on a $150+ item. Especially when there is another option, made in the USA, that will work and they will honor the warranty. ac | ||
| Sportster_mann |
That's all well and good, but Roadstercycle will only ship to the USA, those of us abroad will have to use the Compufire unless there is another alternative ... Would there be any overheads if an adaptor harness was made to mate up the Buell connector from the stator to the plug fitted to the Compufire ? | ||
| Timebandit |
> "Why bother with the Compufire? The company has repeatedly stated their product is not recommended for use on the Buell 1125." it would really help to know why they're being so coy, wouldn't it? > "I hear ya about the RR not knowing what bike it is on...but the manufacture might." maybe there's a good reason they're not talking. it would be interesting to get them to go on the record about whether or not they limit their warranty to Harley-type bikes, or if they'lll warrant their product on other sportibike applications. That would tell me a lot. | ||
| Gofast |
I think it's more about clipping the connectors off and splicing our own on the Compufire, than anything else. They are not interested in producing a RR with Buell connectors. So it's use at your own risk. Mine is working fine. It is a great replacement due to size and fit... If it ever goes, who knows what I'll use then. So far it's only been 1 thats failed. Better rate than my Custom Rewind....I'm more worried about that than the RR now. |
