| Author | Message | ||
     Snackbar64 |
Hey guys, I have a buddy with a 954 and another with a Diavel and we are headed to hit some twisties this weekend. My buddy has had his 954 since it was new in 02 and I could not keep up with him on with my XB9R on the back roads. Do you guys think the 1125 will keep up? I remember his bone stock 954 being pretty powerful. I will have to keep you posted on my attempts to keep up with the Diavel as well. I am going to ride it as well and compare it to the V-Rod. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
It's not the bike if you are trying to keep up on a twisty road. In a straight line, the 954 may still have an advantage. However, I'm thinking the 1125R will walk away from a 954. | ||
| Snackbar64 |
I rode his 954 and it seemed like it had a little less torque than what I have now. I wont try him in a straight line, but things should get interesting in the corners. | ||
| Nukeblue |
the 954 is a liter bike, very fast. the 1125r should about keep up. my 1125cr can hang with my buddies cbr 1100xx but my cr walks away from a stock 1125r a little bit | ||
| Rogue_biker |
The 954 puts out about 140 rwhp and about 65 ft. lbs. of torque. It also weighs around 440 lbs. wet. So yeah, it will walk away from an 1125R in a straight line. (Message edited by rogue_biker on September 26, 2011) | ||
| Duphuckincati |
It ain't what you ride but how you ride. | ||
| Dannybuell |
Riders abilities are the primary variable. | ||
| Nukeblue |
a 9r can just about out-handle anything out there. get your suspension dialed in a little better maybe? | ||
| Snackbar64 |
I may have to do that. I certainly need to adjust the 1125R it is way too bouncy over bumps. | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Gary Nixon (RIP) rode a Ninja 250 on the street. I'd bet money he'd have smoked any of us in sub-100mph twisties. | ||
| 03fatboy |
Agreed on the rider. My buddy, his dad and I went to a trackday. It was my first one and they had been riding them for years. My buddy on an older S4 Ducati, his dad on an 08 R1 and me on my 848. I knew I would not keep with either of them, but my buddy on old S4 would keep up with the R1 and once he passed the R1 in the corners his dad could hardly keep up with him. That S4 probably has half the power of the R1 but he is a superb rider. | ||
| Cycledoc59 |
Those bikes you mention can be laid waste by much smaller, lower powered bikes if the roads are bumpy, twisty switchback routes. Like the man said, it's mostly about the rider. My long time riding partner has had 8 riders crash trying to keep up with his 90K mile '98 Tiger. Ride the mountains in NC, North Ga, western Va, and you can quickly get trashed by crusty old $1,000 bikes with stop watches taped to the bars... | ||
| Snackbar64 |
I guess I need to go back to the XB and hone my skills and then take them to the 1125R. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
I may have to do that. I certainly need to adjust the 1125R it is way too bouncy over bumps. ALL 2008 1125R are too bouncy over bumps. LOL! The spring rates and damping are both too firm for anything except smooth roads. It needs lighter springs and reduced damping fluid to ease the harshness. On the track though it works out perfectly.  | ||
| Dannybuell |
proper compression and rebound dampening settings should smooth out those bumps. | ||
| Snackbar64 |
Can I do this myself? I am not that familiar with how to do something like this. I dont really trust the dealer to adjust the suspension to my needs, but may have to. Anyone know what they charge to set it up? | ||
| Duphuckincati |
Unless your HD dealer is more Buell friendly than fringe/assless chaps friendly, don't bother. It's not rocket science at all, but if you're not confident in it find a local sport bike shop and pay them to help and explain the basics to you. I did a quick search for Dallas sport bikes and came up with this among others- http://www.southwestsuperbikes.com/ Try them. The Buells have basic Japanese suspension components so they should be fine with it. | ||
| Rogue_biker |
proper compression and rebound dampening settings should smooth out those bumps. My experience has been, you can't get to those settings because the OEM springs and damping levels for 2008 model 1125R's are too firm for street riding. Of course that would depend on rider weight. I weigh 200 lbs. and still can't get Compression damping right because it is at minimum yet the ride is still too firm. I do believe I have the spring rates close to ideal but it is near the minimum settings already. (Message edited by rogue_biker on September 27, 2011) | ||
| Nukeblue |
i have my street settings wrote down from my 9r i used to have. i'm 160 lbs and used to ride pretty hard. i'll post them for you later if you want. | ||
| Cycledoc59 |
No matter the suspensions settings on an 1125, a well-ridden dual-sport bike will eat your lunch on a bumpy mountain road.... | ||
| Jaimec |
Casey Stoner on a Honda SilverWing, and Jorge Lorenzo on a Yamaha TMax would leave all of you sucking exhaust... | ||
| Rogue_biker |
a well-ridden dual-sport bike will eat your lunch on a bumpy mountain road.... Up until the first straightaway and that DS will be sucking on our exhaust again. | ||
| Musclecargod |
I went riding with a friend who rides a tuned cbr1000rr, and he is no slouch. I about rode up his ass in the really technical stuff. It's all about the rider and when they start to pucker... And I'll take that bet on the TMax lol. | ||
| Cycledoc59 |
Bottom line; bikes are fairly specialized. Pure sport bikes don't fair well on bumpy mountain roads with no straights. Dual sports don't really like long straights. Cruisers just make up wobble trains that block twisties for the rest of us. http://slayerhater.com/ | ||
| Rogue_biker |
Oh why did U have to ruin the bench racing! |
