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Guambra2001
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanted to install a toggle switch that turns my low beam headlight on/off. I have zero mechanical or electrical abilities but I have been looking at youtube as much as I can.

1. My question is what kind of toggle switch do you need for this specific application? (single pole/single throw SP/ST or single pole/double throw SP/DT)

2. As far as the installation goes if its a SP/ST do you just solder the positive and negative to its respective terminals? Do you add a fuse? How about installation for a SP/DT?

3. Does anyone know of a good website for toggle switches or possible push switches?

4. I know i probably have to find the wiring diagram but if its just a matter of finding the correct wire and soldering another pos/neg wire to the toggle switch I should be able to do it.

Any help would be very appreciated, I'm doing this mod because I'm also installing a HID kit from DDM 35watt/5k and I want to make sure my lights do not flicker on/off when starting the motorcycle.

Thanks again.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SP/ ST would work just fine. Find the common (-) wires that feed the lows. Hook up those to one side of the switch(pole). Run new wires from the other side of the switch(pole) to where u cut the oem commons. Do test first before u solder ur connections.

No need to mess with the positive for this unless u want more work to do.

I have the DDM 35w installed on my r. Never had issues with them.

Another, way instead of cutting your oem wires just cut the HID common wires from DDM. If your bike is under warranty take the HID's out with the switch and they will never know.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The headlight assembly plug wiring diagram gives 4,5 as commons. 1-orange/white , two is white, three is blue.... Six is yellow.
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Guambra2001
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tmchcrk,

Thank you that sounds somewhat simple, I will have to give it a try. When you say 4,5 as commons, you are saying to cut and hook both wires to one side of the switch(pole) and run two different wires to the oem wires that were previously cut?

Sorry If I'm not making any sense but I've never done anything like this before. Thanks.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, exactly. Make sure the switch is rated for 15-20 amps. Just to be safe. Hate to see hit the switch and cause some problems.

Oh I had to reverse the wire on my DDM HIDs, they were reverse polarity compared to the factory. So do alittle trial and error.
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Guambra2001
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tmchcrk,

Thank you, I will do this mod asap. Thanks for all your help.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will guess the doing both commons 4,5 will affect both High and Low beams. So when the switch is off neither light will work. If that is not what you want then cut the commons directly from each of the low beam wires.

If unsure which wire is the common(-), unplug the light from the socket, grab a muli-meter and check and see what your polarity is. I have a digital multi-meter and when I have the incorrect polarity there is a minus (-) sign that pops up on the screen.

Make sure the ignition is on
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Guambra2001
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome that makes more sense to me now, I just want the low beam side to be affected. I'm still keeping the OEM bulbs in since I barely use them anyways. Thanks for explaining all this.
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Tmchcrk
Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, glad I could help
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Um, you already have that switch on the bike.

Hook the HID to the low beam lead. When you want it off, put on the high beams. That turns off the low beams already with the switch already on the bars.
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Guambra2001
Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I want to have the ability to turn my low beam lights off for an extended amount of time if needed. And this little mod should do the trick. Thanks anyway.
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Spike240sx
Posted on Friday, September 09, 2011 - 11:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The lows do not shut off when when the highs are turned on. Easiest way would be to swap the high and low connectors and keep the low connector disconnected. That way when the headlight switch is in the low beam position no lights would be on. Then you flip the switch to high and your hids will come on.
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Tippster
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@Repicheep:

Admittedly I bought my bike used with the HID lows already installed but my turning on the highs just adds a second set of lights - the outside ones. Are you saying this is unusual?
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes. If you run the HID's off the low beam bulb lead, they would shut off when you hit the high beam switch. But not the flash to pass.

So your hids are either fed by something other than the low beam line, or the switch has been jumpered.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Yes. If you run the HID's off the low beam bulb lead, they would shut off when you hit the high beam switch. But not the flash to pass.




Only on inferior air cooled bikes. All 1125 models keep the low beam on.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for the clarification Froggy.
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