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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 06:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okay so i think i may have made it mad!

so i was adjusting my fuel maps....

only the fuel maps.

no it won't start.

it has spark, it turns over, it's not getting fuel.

i went back to the back up of my maps and got nothing.

using the software i can cycle the injectors, spark plugs, fans, fuel pump.

when i cycle key on the fuel pump is not running. when i cycle the pump using the software the bike will start but dies within a few seconds. i pulled the connector off of the fuel pressure sensor and i am getting 5V on the one pin and when i jump to the other two i get fans and iac movement on one of them and nothing on the other. the 'other' pin i would believe is the pin that signals the fuel pump.

i've got the books and so far i've not been successful tracking this down.

two questions: wtf did i do? and does anyone have an unmolested copy of the bue2d242 race 255 eeprom data?
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also when i cycle key on the iac motor can be heard and the plugs cycle, the self clean on the plugs i remember having to do that manually with WOT on key on.


anybody?

Bueller...
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ok soooo i found out i did it wrong used the wrong software which apparently throws things out of whack when you load them back.... so got tunerpro and back up of the eeprom got it loaded and now it sounds right when i cycle the key on however. i now have theft error reading across the cluster. did some research and talked to one of our geniuses and it would seem that normally the theft error in this case could be caused by dead/low battery.

battery has been on automatic charger since yesterday when i started this whole thing and still theft error. load tested battery with old school heater type tester showed a bit over charged at first then after two 10 sec cycles it's holding 11.8v and showing 400a capacity...

other thoughts?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure that 20 pin connector that is close to your ECM is plugged in tight.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 05:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that is close to or is the ecm connector itself? i pulled waited and reseated both ecm connectors last night to no avail. i am out of warranty and really can't afford a trip to HD...
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have a quick look at this thread:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/290 431/566210.html

The default PIN is 0000, it's worth seeing if you can get into the security settings and make sure it's off.

I'm guessing you don't have a spare ECM anywhere? Just out of interest the backup of your ECM settings - was that definately YOUR backup (i.e. not one from someone else's bike).

Obvious things (which you have no doubt checked) - Clutch state indicator on IC (make sure the clutch switch state changes) Bike in Neutral, Sidestand up (just in case the backup isn't from a US bike)..Do a quick check of the TPS settings too (just in case).

A good voltage reading on a static battery (no load) is ~12.8V IIRC

Personally - i'd look at the theft settings, then the TPS, then battery...

Good luck..
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jules read that thread and the other one last night. the cluster is non responsive to mode or toggle inputs. when i get home i am going to play with it some more. yes back up was mine.
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah... that certainly does complicate things...

Seems to imply a battery issue... but that'd be an unfortunate coincidence.

It may be worth disconnecting the battery for 30 mins and then reconnecting it to see if that makes any difference

(Message edited by Jules on August 30, 2011)
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah left neg cable off for about an hour last night as last thing before bed. no change.

wish i had a 'spare' ecm that'd make things a lot easier for sure
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OEM?: get it reflashed at the dealer, buy an Erik Buell Racing ECM. E-B-R?: get it reflashed.

The Subject Matter Expert here is Erik Buell Racing, go with the flow....
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boogie:

The 20 pin connector is a stand alone connector. It's located right behind the ECM mounting point, a little tucked in. If that connector is not connected, you won't be able to start the bike and "Theft Error" will be displayed on the IC.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

danny you buying?

thanks two i didn't take it apart but will check it when i get home
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Dannybuell
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A reflash might be free if you were lucky. A reflash takes moments, might be $40.00.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

was referring to the ebr ecm. im gonna swing by the local HD and thankfully i made friends there so hopefully i may get a hookup or at least not raped. i am so more than broke right now.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2011 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

talked to my friendly service writer he said bring it by anytime friday and he will hook me up. so hopefully it only needs a flash from them and good to go
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well as always a good experience with Adamecs Harley in Jacksonville. Reflashed for FREE!!!!!! Thanks Jon!!!!
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fantastic! : )
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Jules
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's good - are you up and running again now?
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah it lives again!! Just got back from uhaul returning the trailer. But she runs. Now I 'have' to go ride her to get the stock maps into learning mode.
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