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Court
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 04:31 pm: | 
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Bill:
Very well put.
Some of the assumptions about HD, Buell, Erik Buell Racing and Rotax, within this thread, are accurate .... Many are not. It's important we don't create expectations based on simple Internet banter.
You summed it up very well and I suspect this will evenyally have quite a happy ending.
Strictly my personal opinion and my own internet speculation. |
Tpoppa
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 04:39 pm: |
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Some of the assumptions about HD, Buell, Erik Buell Racing and Rotax, within this thread, are accurate .... Many are not
For example...
You summed it up very well and I suspect this will evenyally have quite a happy ending.
Is there any actual information in that statement? |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 05:38 pm: |
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Ban this jerk. |
Tpoppa
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 05:48 pm: |
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If your position is too weak to withstand a rational debate, then you better... |
Stargazer
| | Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 - 09:45 pm: |
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I went with a Compufire 55402 regulator and stock stator rewound by CustomRewind. I'm only 400 miles into it, but I'm charging anywhere from 12.2, stopped at length at traffic lights to 14.7 when motor isn't at operating temp. At operating temp, I'm around its running from 12.9 to 14.0 by the guages. So far so good. We'll see. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 12:44 pm: |
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That sounds promising Stargazer, a double whammy of better regulator and a rewind. Those numbers sound good, even if you just 'break even' at idle, you will be fine.
Maybe that special lithium Ion battery is a piece of the puzzle as well. |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 02:04 pm: |
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We can solve this Who has the first 1190rs We will be over to pull your stator cover and check out the afore mentioned ( oil jets ) Steve Mckay Spell check please! We need you to start doing prototypes or the code required for machining. Al can sell the parts and or services and Erik Buell Racing is clear of any Imperial involvements. |
Mako
| | Posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 - 02:33 pm: |
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i like the lithium battery/regulator idea too. seemed to me like my old battery had something to do with it. wouldn't take entering code without dying after a few short trips. |
Bhillberg
| | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 09:57 am: |
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Those are very similar readings to what I have, and I have one burnt leg. I have a brand new battery as well |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2011 - 11:45 am: |
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Social Media is a business. Just like big government is business you never know who is pulling the strings and what good may have been lost.
Kenm123t I like the idea of crowdsourcing collaboration. Crowdsourcing rocks when there is good leadership. So far several individuals have shared their personal initiative in solving their stator problems.
MOSFET shunt and Compufire's series regulators , Custom Rewind stators, and your call for rotor R&D. It is all good.
Shnitz happens when you do something new. Sorting the 1125 engine out is just not happening fast enough for some of us. |
Mako
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:21 am: |
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week five for no bike. dealer isn't sure where stator is or if it has even shipped. almost two weeks since stator died. What can we do? its sure seems like h-d just doesn't care. one payment with no bike bad, two payments no bike unacceptable. |
Mako
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 10:37 am: |
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just found out the regulator is a ducati part. have found several replacement regulators. the best one seems to be a regulator that switches off legs of stator as they get too hot, or full voltage isn't needed. shindengen fh012aa voltage regulator. |
Jules
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 01:07 pm: |
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You're a little behind the curve there Mako 
I don't believe that the FH012AA does in fact do what you think. It IS a MOSFET VR so is an improvement over the OEM (which isn't made by the same Ducati Company you might think) but it's still a shunt..
If you want something that does the switching etc that you've mentioned you need to move to a series VR..
The MOSFET is just a "better" shunt.. |
Rogue_biker
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 07:54 pm: |
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Why not just get the '08 parts and install them yourself? Obviously, the warranty takes way too long and it just uses the same parts that fail over and over.
Just saying.....this is what I would do if I had that problem, because warranty is not the solution. |
Avc8130
| | Posted on Thursday, July 28, 2011 - 11:14 pm: |
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Rogue,
Your solution is great, except for the price tag. Buell wants ~$1100 for the 08 stator and rotor. That is over 1/6 of what most paid for their entire 09.
ac |
Mako
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 10:52 am: |
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how about making the field weaker somehow. coating the rotor, machining to increase distance from rotor to stator. there has got to be a way to make it produce less heat.
thanks for the clarification on series vs shunt. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Friday, July 29, 2011 - 05:33 pm: |
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Well i got a call from the National Service Manager and was told that my stator that was just installed was a revised part as a fix to the failing 2009 stators. He was very certain that it will not fail again.
Me not so much. |
Mako
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 09:40 am: |
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we can hope |
Dktechguy112
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 09:49 am: |
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Ratgin,
Tell the "national service manager" to provide the "revised" part number, if it is a revision it should have a different p/n.
I'm calling BS, I think the service manager is full of it. |
Dannybuell
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 11:33 am: |
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Dktechguy112 - BS if the p/n is the same. |
Jules
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 01:28 pm: |
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That's been said before.. The Service Manager at my dealership couldn't find any reference to any revised part and HD wouldn't "warrant" the stator any more than the remaining warranty on the bike...hence my refusal to allow them to put another OEM 09 stator in. |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 04:39 pm: |
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Interesting..
This guy is not dealership service manager but the HD Canada Service manager.
He specifically said revised parts.. wouldn't fail again and if it did while out of warranty (within reason) they would cover it.
Again ive no faith in this bike atm and am looking at flogging it but it seemed like good news. my bike was fixed under warranty so no reason for him to spin the repair |
Jules
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 05:55 pm: |
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my bike was fixed under warranty so no reason for him to spin the repair
Yes there is... but it might be a disservice to him to mention why he might have done that.
IF (big IF) you were not happy that the replacement part was anything other than a part that could guarantee your continued enjoyment of the vehicle i.e. that it would operate as you would normally anticipate a new vehicle to operate then you could reject it as not fit for purpose (certainly that's true here in the UK) based on the evidence available w.r.t. the number of failures (and repeat failures) of that component..
One possible scenario is that he tells you it's a "new/revised/better" part and you leave the dealsership with the bike....The problem (for them) leaves with you.
Fast forward 6 months,your warranty expires and the "new/revised/better" part fails and you're stuck with a broken bike and no recourse.... Unless you got something in writing... |
Ratgin
| | Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2011 - 08:51 pm: |
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IF i keep it.. big IF.. then it will have an extended warranty |
