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01lightning
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

picked up some race plastics. does anyone have experience with prepping these things for paint? I hear people at the track saying they 'primed and sanded' but what does that mean...spray primer on it and sand it? I'm not looking to do a super high quality paint job,but I want it to look decent at least.Plus I'm home with a busted wrist with nothing to do. I also have to figure out how to mount 'em up. Of course I have a Cr and will have to accommodate the R fairing, and the belly pan will need fastening points on the bike.
[IMG]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r29/mjspurdrummer/IM007200.jpg[/IMG]

(Message edited by 01lightning on January 10, 2011)
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01lightning
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yea, prime it, and then once the paint is dry, wet sand the primer smooth.

Then put on your top coat. Then wet sand that.

And so on.

Painting sucks. It's messy, it stinks, and it takes forever.

And, I suck at it.
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Xodot
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

01 - where did you get those? I am looking for track day use plastic.
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01lightning
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

alrighty then, thanks I'll get some primer and sandpaper. Xodot I got these here in the BadWeb Classified section.
Thanks Mike!
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Kaotikevo
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

umm, i'd look into your project a lil bit deeper.If you are planning on painting plastic, there is a flex agent additive for the paint to promote adhesion and durability. If the parts to be painted are indeed plastic and not fiberglass, the paint can crack and peel within months without the flex additive.
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01lightning
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess i titled this thread incorrectly- they are fiberglass. sorry for the confusion.
factory body works is the company
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Jules
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depending on the finish of the fibreglass you can use some "filler primer" as the bottom filler coat, that'll fill in minor imperfections and you can sand that flat.

Fibreglass can absorb quite a bit of paint if it's not sealed properly.

A layer of filler primer, sanded and then a sealer/primer on top (sanded) and then bulid up a few layers of paint sanding back each layer.

The more layers you apply the greater the depth of colour you get.

A couple of layers of clearcoat/lacquer on top of that and you're good to go.

A reasonable finishing compound will then cut that back to a lovely shine..
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Stirz007
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

01 - I am getting ready to prep the same plastics you have over the next month or two. I'd be happy to share notes. It hit 5 degrees in the shop this morning, so I've been kinda weak on getting the plastics prep'd. Just bought a nice 20000 btu heater, so now no excuses.

First thing, wash everything with soap and water, then look for pinholes, chips, blemishes. If you are going for just disposa-plastics, you can just spray paint them, but that's what it will look like when you are finished.

If you want a little better, as Jim says, be prepared for quite a bit of sanding, sanding, sanding and more sanding.

First step - wash, make repairs to glass as needed, sand.

Second - body filler (Bondo or your favorite polyester filler), sand again to maybe 400?

Third - prime, sand again

Topcoat(s), sand again (wet sand)

Clear coat, wet sand again

Final Clear coat

Good automotive finishes are the way to go, House of Kolor, DuPont, etc. Dust free environment is the hard part - rent a booth if you can. I have a filter box and tent arrangement I use, but the trick to a nice finish, besides tons of prep, is a dust-free area to work.
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Mastrtek
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hi matt, figure out mounting and drilling before painting. you will scratch and scuff them. prep and paint after final mounting and fitment is done or else you will be painting again. they are already primed and sanded with 600 grit. thanks, mike
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Bigevildoer
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey 01Lightning...
What brand is the lower? I just looked at the factorybodyworks website and it doesn't show it there - only the pods and the head fairing...
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01lightning
Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks Mike,I'm gonna start fitting them up as soon as I get a fairing bracket and an exhaust.
Bigevil, they are all Factory Body Works as far as I know. I have been in contact with FBW to try to get some pics and info on more bodywork-waiting to hear back. There isn't much at all on their site for the 1125.
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Fastbikes
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a set of these as well (not mounted yet, considering selling them) and they sent me addl. photos that i can forward to you if you would like. Also would love to see your pics once mounted 01lightning
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Stirz007
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fast and 01 - If it's cool, copy me as well with those photos. I have the same plastics and will be mounting soon. I'd love to see how you guys 'skin the cat'.

Thanks

JM
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01lightning
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fast, sure please forward the pics, thanks! I'll definitely post pics when I fit em up
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01lightning
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks Fast.
looks like the same stuff here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ewItem&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619&item=220724822833&vie witem=&category=34284#ht_746wt_1167
not mine
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Fastbikes
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That listing is direct from Factory Body Works. Same place I bought mine.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm watching a video on mounting "a race body" by FBW, I'm in gearhead heaven now, Thanks y'all/youguys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUfrRo07yQw

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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... Ready for next season...



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01lightning
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lookin good! did you paint that yourself?
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yup... rattle cans, sand paper and tape. Oh, and some Vinyl numbers from Home Depot.

What's amazing is how much better these bikes look in flat black. I chose it because it hides flaws in my home-painted finish. But, I actually like it on the bike a fair bit better than the stock black.
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01lightning
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

cool, have any pics of the bike in flat? I'm considering flat black myself...
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, January 17, 2011 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No pics yet. It's decidedly better than gloss, though, that's for sure.

the ONLY time I've ever gotten a complement on the appearance of my Buells is the track bike in flat back.
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 01:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

01 - how is the install going? I'm also fitting up the FBW plastics, and am having some grief with the pod covers - what did you do?

So far, the tail section seemed to go on pretty well but I haven't started on upper/lower fairing yet. The plan is to knock the rest out over the next two weeks, then go to paint.

Thanks

JM
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