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Nm5150
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have to say I have been kind of snobbish since I got my 1125R towards my air cooled brethren but I have seen the light.I got a Christmas break from a very stressing job and my buddy and I ended up at home at the same time.He has three Buells and a NICE Harley.On my way into town the weather was nice and he called me up and offered me a ride on his '09 XB12 with race ECM and Spec Ops pipe.That bike was a HOOT to ride!He was on his 1125R and even though the 1125R is faster in a straight line I really enjoyed riding the XB.He is downsizing and the tuber and the 1125R are for sale .I didn't understand why he is selling the 1125 over the XB but after riding it I "get it"When I get moneyed up again I may have to look for one!
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Xb9er
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a xb12s then got a 1125r. I sold the 1125 and bought a uly
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Nm5150
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode a Uly after I bought an 06 Multistrada and I had rode the Uly first I would have bought it.
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, when I bought my 1125R I had an XB9SX. I still have my XB9SX and my 1125R (both paid for.). I can honestly say I look down on no one and enjoy both bikes for what they are. The XB just has the refined raw feel while the 1125R has the refined throw you back feel.
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T_man
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had an XB12 prior to my 1125 and while I enjoyed the Firebolt, it was frustrating running into rev-limiter just when things seemed like they were going somewhere.

If prior experience = mostly sportbikes, the 1125 will trump the XB.
If prior experience = everything but sportbikes then the XB might trump the 1125.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an 08 1125R and an 09 XB12X.
I PRAY I never have to get rid of either.

No machine has given me the feelings the 1125R has.
The Ulysses is the Perfect MotorcycleŽ and does EVERYTHING better than anything else(except the 1125R).

Erik may not be god, but he IS a DAMN GOOD Engineer.

Z
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Albert666
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm lucky in having both an 08 1125r and an 08 xb12s, the plan was to sell the xb when i got the 1125 but they're so different i couldn't bring myself to do it, answer? sold the wifes sportster, bought her a lowered seat, now she rides the xb and when i want to i just change the seat over
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Trafford
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have 1125R and XB12R. Love them both. But quite different beasts..................
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had XB9SX and sold it about 6 months after getting the R. Now I have the itch to pickup a Firebolt for the right price...but more realistically it will be a dual sport of some type.
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Tbowdre
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 t-man, previous sport bikes will have preferring the 1125r. I had a firebolt and loved it. But it just didn't have the power I wanted.

The 1125 feels like the bolt. V twin power, awesome handling, unique looks, BUT you get so, so much more of everything. Good lights too!

YMMV
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will always have seller's remorse about parting with my X-1. Maybe one day I'll get another. I sold my Uly and bought an 1125r. Was not "getting it" since my X-1 would spank the Uly in every regard including riding gravel roads at speed. I've ridden an XB 12 Lightning and I liked it. I never warmed up to the Uly though. But if I had a choice between a tuned tuber and an XB I go with the tuber.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've had an '06 XB12R since new, just got an '08 1125R. Both bikes are very different! The 1125R is the better sportbike in every performance category, including wind protection. The XB12R is a great all around bike including commuting and just easy going country road rides with no particular hurry to get anywhere. Think of it as a "vintage" V-twin bike with modern chassis.
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Dynasport
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought about an 1125r when I bought my XT. I have never had a sport bike and like to do long rides, so I was afraid I would not be able to ride an 1125 the distances I like to go. I rode an 1125cr 300 miles one day and was very uncomfortable the last 100-150 miles. So, I still believe I made the right choice. However, in my limited exposure to the 1125, I gotta say I love the engine. I wish I could afford both. Maybe one day I will.
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Usmoto
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 05:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I owned an XB12R before buying the 1125R. I don't like one more than the other. I will say that the XB had a lot more character and the 25R is much smoother and faster. I'll take either one. If I had the money I'd buy another XB.

Rock on Erik Buell Racing!
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Mackja
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am fortunate to have both the 1125r and a Xb12R. The Xb12 is my track bike now and is a great bike. I use the 1125r as my street ride, I know this sound kind of backwards, but for me the xb will make me a better rider, on the track I have to carry more corner speed to lower my lap times. This will require me to improve my skills. Both are great bikes, and a ton of fun to ride. Hope I can add the 1190rs soon.
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T_man
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mackja - your dead on in your observations concerning the XB making you a better rider on the track. The 1125 (and most supersports over 600cc) generally have 'too much' thrust handicapping the riders ability to improve. IMO

That being said; the only bike I own is an 1125 and therefore it is the bike I take to the track - excess thrust and all.. such is life!
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is soooo much fun mucking with the 600s on the track while I am on my XB12! I also believe riding the tractor motor makes me a better rider, as I have to hit my marks everytime.
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Mackja
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What pisses me off is those damn I4 1000's that just blast down the straights, and then just about stop in the turns, there is no better joy than when I pass one, and they know a XB12 just packed there lunch. lol
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Brumbear
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I miss my xb12ss but I really like my CR if I found or rather fell on an xb I would buy one but I think I would want a City X this time I always loved that bike!!!!!!!
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Two_seasons
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First off, i don't own an XB, so i don't know anything about them except my perception...the engine appears, just like the 1125r/cr, difficult to access for routine maintenance.

Using the same frame technology as the 1125 with an H/D engine appears odd to me.

i'd rather have a tuber with an H/D engine.



(Message edited by two_seasons on January 05, 2011)
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, when I bought my 1125R I had an XB9SX. I still have my XB9SX and my 1125R (both paid for.). I can honestly say I look down on no one and enjoy both bikes for what they are. The XB just has the refined raw feel while the 1125R has the refined throw you back feel.

Same here and I feel the same way.
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Mackja
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice thing about the XB is that the engine does not require much maintenance. All you do to an Xb is change the oil and primary chain case/transmission lube, adjust the primary chain and clutch, clean the air filter, the only thing that is a little difficult is the spark plugs and once you learn how they are no problem at all. So this gives the Xb an advantage over the 1125 which needs to rotate the engine to adjust the valves.
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Trafford
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mackje- Exactly! The XB is low maintenance compared to the majority of bikes on the road...... hydraulic valve clearance, fuel injection, etc etc
Way easier than the 1125R.......and I have both so I can say this with some experience. I did 10000 miles this summer season on the 1125 and 2000 on the XB plus some on a BMW and the XB still have a firm place in my heart.
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Rogue_biker
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only other bike that has less maintenance is the BMW Boxer engines and Guzzi 2v engines. They still need valve inspections but it's very easy to do on either engine.

Otherwise, the XB beats them all in the low maintenance dept.
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Petebueller
Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2011 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride the Firebolt everyday and the 1125R on weekends. They are very different bikes. I wouldn't want to choose between either.

The big thing for me with the 1125R is the cornering. My Firebolt doesn't tip into a corner as easily as the 1125R and I can't get a setup on the Firebolt that works well in rough corners. The 1125R always feels planted. I have a steering dampener fitted to the Firebolt and I can feel it working sometimes. I bought one with the 1125R but I haven't fitted it and I've never felt like I've needed it.

I find the Firebolt much easier to ride on gravel and coming home from work through heavy traffic on stormy nights. The easy torque of the motor is beautiful.
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Thedavyboy
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had an xb12 and really enjoyed it then I sold it and got a cr . Great bike till the problems started . Sold the cr and wished I never sold the xb , bullet proof bike as far as I'm concerned
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Bigevildoer
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


I bought one with the 1125R but I haven't fitted it and I've never felt like I've needed it.

Thinking about getting rid of it Petebueller? PM me if you are...

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Mackja
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found just the opposite, the XB12R is more planted, almost like it is on rails.
My 1125r front end was heavy feeling and sluggish, I had the sag set, no better, put on a set of Dunlop Q2, a little better, but not much, installed a set of Michelin power Pure's and now it is spot on. The lighter weight tires have made a world of difference.
On the xb I lowered the trees 5mm, installed Buell spring kit, the rear shock is not strong enough to keep the rear end up (off by 9mm)with me on it so I installed an Elka 3way. It is perfect, handles great quick and predictable, solid as a rock. Putting on a V front profile tire for 2011 track season, should be even quicker if that is possible.
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Black
Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last weekend the weather lightened up and warmed up a bit. I rode an X-1, an XB12-STT, a 2008R and a 2009R. They each are a different and very fun ride. The Thunderstorm engines are more torquey...but the Rotax engines just scream. They all handle great. I think the X-1 is the top of tuber evolution and it just looks cool. The fuel-in-frame bikes all handle like they are on rails. I am very glad I got bitten by the Buell bug. I am so looking forward to the next Erik Buell machine. In the mean time, I'll just ride the wheels off of these.
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Petebueller
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 02:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thinking about getting rid of it Petebueller? PM me if you are...


I'm a bit of a collector Bigevildoer. I also bought the fairing sides with the bike and don't like them very much, but I'll keep them as part of the history of the bike.

The dampener was AU$800+ in AUS when I bought it (through the dealer network before all that stuff shifted to Erik Buell Racing). It is much cheaper through Erik Buell Racing. If you want a dampener it is the one to get. Really tidy.
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T_man
Posted on Friday, January 07, 2011 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Honestly though; If I had the choice between the turbo charged 'Diablo' Firebolt and the 1125 - I'd be choosing the Firebolt.

As much as like my 1125, it just can't match the Firebolt's perfect aesthetics. 150hp and 100ft/lbs of torque also play a large roll in tipping favour to the Diablo..
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