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Archive through January 02, 2011Jules30 01-02-11  04:52 pm
         

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Chameleon
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I completely agree that the cost of a new tire is absolutely nothing compared to the potential cost of a failure.

The majority of my tires are replaced before they get to the point shown in the pictures above. Those are only 3 out of the 7 or 8 rears I've gone through over the last 62,132 miles I've put on my bike.

Obviously I do try to pay attention and perform the T-CLOCS pre-ride inspection before riding.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The last time I did an EOL burnout I had cord showing 200-230 degrees.
I ran, SMOKING, in 1st and 2nd for almost 5 minutes before it popped.

Riding the cord is only dangerous in wet, icy or glass.
It's the tire's "reserve". : )

Flame on
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Jules
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 05:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with you, I do the odd EOL burnout too, Heck I paid for the tire so I want to extract maximum fun from it.. I agree it'll stand up to quite a bit of punishment on tarmac, smoking.

Unfortunately that's not the same as riding down the street, banked over and hitting a nail or sharp stone...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My last rear 616 on the Ulysses *almost* got me home from Buelltoberfest.

I knew it was 'close' when I left for the trip.

I figured if I had to I could get a tire down there.

I left to head home figuring "its only a few hundred miles", and it looks "fine". It was on the wear bars. I could still see tread blocks...but barely.

400 miles from home, a rock on the interstate punctured the carcass.





It was about 10 at night in Bristol VA. I got off the interstate (tons of fun once the tire lost its bead), found the hole and plugged it, got a hotel room and got a tire at a local shop in the morning.

Doing the "poke test" on the dismounted old tire...it was about as thick as a credit card. If that much.

There's NOT a lot to these things, and it's a prime example of "take care of it, and it'll take care of you".

I didn't. I got lucky there wasn't an 18 wheeler on my license plate when it went out, too.
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Usanigel
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tires should be changed at or before the wear bars! That's it! You have cords showing? You are way past that tires life. Can't afford a tire? You have the wrong bike.

Cords are part of the structure of the tire and not any kind of reserve!

(Message edited by usanigel on January 03, 2011)
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Daniii
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The local harley dealer only 'stocks' the Pirelli. Looking through the owner's manual, I don't see the rear tire size. (I know, I can go to the garage when I get home and look...). Looking for size and recommended source for a longer lasting rear tire.

Yes, I'm lazy. But I'm sure some of you know off the top of your heads, both.
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Drdorsey
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a solution to this dilemma…only ride the twisties!
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Aeholton
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Danii: 180/55 ZR 17
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Daniii
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. Looks like the PR2 is what I'm gonna order. Will I have an issue with a Pirelli Corsa on the front (remember, I am not racing this bike)?
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I learned to ride on rock hard tires...I fell down a lot...the tires usually lasted longer than the bike did...race pace back then was slower than "spirited" street pace today....I'll either keep buying tires, or sell my Buell and get a weenie bike...when I took off the last set, there was no cord showing, but the center of the tire was paper thin...I had gone over 135 on that tire the day before...eye opening.

Nearly a thousand miles into my new set of Q2s...them fargin things got some HOOK!!! If they wear out quick...they are cheap...I'll buy more...
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Buellmojo
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Daniii,
Two completely different style of tires, if at all possible, you might want to change front and rear at the same time, just my opinion though.
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Daniii
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was afraid someone would say that.
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Buellmojo
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think the difference will be as severe as it will cause you to tip the bike, but you will certainly not get the most out of the feel and stability of the new rear tire without the matching front.

For commuting and light spirited rides, you will probably feel a difference like the front and rear are not quite in sync with each other, but it should be fine if the front is still in good shape...Remember though, the front tire does have the same mileage as the rear you are replacing.

I guess the main concern would be for you to get that rear replaced, and again, if the front is still in good shape, run it until you can match it up to the rear.
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Chameleon
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have run mismatched tires with no ill effects.
I find that I go through about 2 front tires for every 3 rears.

(Message edited by Chameleon on January 04, 2011)
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Kinder
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with usanigel... Cords ARE NOT a wear indicator.

Below are pics of my rear coming back from a 4 day weekend. I thought I had enough tire left for the trip and would put the new one on when I got back.

Last 4hrs of ride were very slow (normally trip would have been under well under 3hrs ; ) ) And when I got back the 7min ride to the shop from my house ended with the tire failing 10' from the parking space.

So lucky it didn't happen at speed in a corner!

I also change out 2 rears to 1 front. I try to stay same/ similar compounds/performance levels though. Right now I have a Michelin Pilot Road 2 on rear and Michelin Pure on front. No noticeable issues have been felt.





I am embarrased about how square this tire got. Not alot of time in twisties last year. : (

(Message edited by kinder on January 04, 2011)
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Daniii
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got the Michelin mounted, and had the dealer "check all the fluids" while it was in the shop. Guess what, the Clutch cylinder is leaking. They ordered parts (under warranty...).
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