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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going to take my 1125 cr to the track. I want to get some protective gear for the bike in case of a wreck.
I know I'm going to get the carbon fiber engine case protectors.
I want to get front and rear axle sliders from American Sport Bike.
Is there anything else I am missing?

Also, I need to change out the coolant to water and water wetter.
And I need to safety wire key bolts and get a belly pan.
Any tips on where to get the belly pan?
I looked at the Erik Buell Racing belly pan, but it doesn't have any mounting hardware, is that a big deal?
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01lightning
Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

get some uly frame pucks.
are you sure you need to do all that for track days in your area? It sounds like you may be reading the race requirements for the bike. If you're just doing track days you will probably only need to tape up your lights,mirrors and signals and pass tech. Thats all i've had to do to my CR.
The CR kicks ass at the track,enjoy!
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get some good handlebar sliders. If you think you'll be doing a lot of track days invest in some scratched up bodywork as it only takes a short time to change out the tail section...that will usually take a beating if you go down.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, December 19, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the advice.
It's actually my brother that going to the track, and he is taking a course, if he passes he gets his race license. So for him to take the course I have to prep the bike like he is racing.
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Nattyx1
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DKtech: Obvious first idea: don't fall down.
Less obvious second idea: do what I did:
find crappy/crashed bodywork online.
buy it relatively cheap.
install it.
stop worrying about your nice bodywork.
purchase: axle sliders, uly frame pucks andif you wanna be REALLY safe, the CF case covers that Erik Buell Racing sells.
Also dump the plastic covers on the barends and get some good/cheap bar end weights. Not only will this protect your stuff there, but it'll also reduce vibration to the hands.

In the pic below - you ALSO see why I've since gone and purchased some used low "clubman" bars to help the upright riding position - which is great on the street and not so great on track.

Crappy bodywork with a bit of sanding and some flat white rattle can work. An old S1 race fairing up front. Not too hideous, right?




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Johnnys999
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 1125 is not the easiest bike in the world to protect from crashes, unlike most other bikes. The important bodywork pieces stick way out and are totally exposed, I don't think the bike would fair well in a crash. No place to mount frame sliders and there are no sliders long and hence strong enough anyway to get pass the bulbous sides. Best advice suggested above is getting old plastic and bar end and axle sliders.
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Blur
Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make sure you have some meaty tires and are SMOOTH with the throttle/brakes. Do that and you should be fine.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think the bike would fair well in a crash. No place to mount frame sliders and there are no sliders long and hence strong enough anyway to get pass the bulbous sides.

Documented the bike crashes better than most. "Bulbous sides" ARE the crash protectors.
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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Natty,

They let you race without a belly pan?!?!?
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Nattyx1
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jdug:
I wasn't racing bro. It was just a trackday.

No belly pan required. No more racing for me... I proved what I had to prove. Now I just ride for the fun of it (and for work of course).

I retired after leaving various parts of my right side in the tire wall at the outside of turn 1 at infineon 3 weeks before my wedding (a doofus novice I was lapping panicked instead of holding his line and torpedo'd me).
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99buellx1
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That dosn't sound like the correct class to be taking as the first foray onto the track.

Generally there are two distinct classes available at the track.
1. Track School
2. Race School

Start with #1.
#2 can work, but it's not even close to the same info.
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Bigevildoer
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No place to mount frame sliders and there are no sliders long and hence strong enough anyway to get pass the bulbous sides. Best advice suggested above is getting old plastic and bar end and axle sliders.


I'll dispute the frame slider bit Johny999s threw out there...
Pelacrash makes sliders for our bikes... based out of Spain.

Here's a pic of my bike with them installed.


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Johnnys999
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, I stand corrected there are no frame sliders available, at least those look like they will protect the tank and maybe the tail, if they don't break off. Are they bolted through the frame or just screwed into a bolt hole? I ask because I've crashed with both versions, the Cycle Cat bolt through the frame product saved everything on my Ducati 916 but the fairings. But I had replaced those with track fairings. The screw in type I had on my 600RR Honda and they broke off immediately when I low sided at high speed a high speed. Even the Cycle Cats are designed to break off if the drop energy is beyond their specs.
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here's some better pics.
http://www.buelletinboard.com/forums/showthread.ph p?14368-PELACRASH-frame-sliders-1125CR/page3

looks like too much leverage for my level of comfort
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Guilhem0018
Posted on Wednesday, January 12, 2011 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hello go for that:
http://www.pelacrash.com/ppresentacion.html

I have them and they protect very well the cooling fan parts.

tested on a small fall down at idle...
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