| Author | Message | ||
     Painkiller |
Was riding along today and was slowing down using the front and rear brakes when my rear seized up on me!I didnt notice it right away, I smelled something burning and then when pulled in the clutch to slow down again a few seconds later there was noticeable drag without applying the brakes. I pulled over and took a look. Sure enough the rear disc was roasting and the pads were right up against it. I checked fluids, fine. pushed down on the rear brake and there was no pressure... I opened the bleed screw and managed to push the pads back to finish the trip home, but what gives? dont want to try to ride it to the dealership to get it "fixed" and end up doing an endo on the highway because my front brakes seize... Help! | ||
| Painkiller |
Also, 66xxk Miles. Original pads... No hard riding/braking the last 2k miles. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
yessir mine did too around 5k mine was glowing white hot which according to google was round 2k deg f entire rear brake system replaced along with the wheel bearing on the side. All warranty. After getting it back i knew right away the rear brake was goobered from day one. The replacement felt soooososososoooo much better. Both when using and when it was returning to the 'rest' state | ||
| Dano_12s |
The rear master cylinder piston/bore most likely has corrosion starting in it.I noticed the free play in pedal starting to disappear.New master is cheap thou-under$50. | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
Do you know if the pads have been changed prior to these events ? The pads need to be firmly pushed and almost snapped into place , if they are not , they will drag on the rotors even when not being directly applied .... just a thought  | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
in my case no they were as delivered new. so if setup was done wrong? | ||
| Thurstonbuell |
I wouldnt think so .... what year , miles , original owner etc ? | ||
| Poppawheelie |
maybe there is a link between that and the weird howl people have been hearing from their rear rotor?  | ||
| Drawkward |
The howl is due to the exhaust dumping on it in cold temps. The exhaust fogs the rotor and will cause it to howl when used. Mine does it in the winter all the time. The placement of the exhaust dumps are just incredibly dumb and ill thought out. | ||
| Froggy |
No, thats due to moisture on the rotor. | ||
| Froggy |
Actually it was done intentionally to pass EPA noise emissions. Also, I still get the howl in the rain when riding my CR with aftermarket pipe, being that the rotor is getting wet. (Message edited by Froggy on November 09, 2010) | ||
| Drawkward |
Froggy:
Care to provide me with a source for that? Cause that makes literally no sense at all. None. | ||
| Froggy |
It was per an annony post on here a few years back. The brake rotor acts like a baffle and helps diffuse noise. | ||
| Curve_carver |
The rotor deflects/chops the noises up. It's true!! Froggys correct. I heard it first hand from a good source. | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
Why would you need to deflect/chop the noise when the stock exhaust is already super quiet? How would it not pass EPA standards? Just asking, not trying to be a dick. | ||
| Froggy |
The stock exhaust is very noisy. There was even one Badwebber who almost failed an inspection because the inspector thought the exhaust wasn't stock. Perhaps you are going deaf?  Also, the EPA testing is a bit funny, from my understanding they test the noise in various spots, so if they had a right facing exhaust outlet, it may direct the noise right at the testing microphone. By aiming it at the swingarm and rotor, it diffuses the rearward sound, so if it is tested from behind it will not be as loud. Remember, the funky EPA emissions is why we got stuck with an intake solenoid. The Japanese model XBs have a similar setup. (Message edited by froggy on November 10, 2010) | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
Thanks for the info Frogy. Perhaps you are going deaf? : )Ahh, a friggin comedian huh? lol I think I am just used to the Harley I used to have. That thing was loud. I just got the word from D Adams, my exhaust is on its way so, I may be back to that Harley decibel level again pretty soon! I love how that sound just reaches out and grabs your attention  | ||
| Dreso1021 |
I cant wait to get mine from Dean. Other than getting back to my wife that is the single biggest thing I am looking forward to getting back to | ||
| Father_of_an_era |
I hear ya Dresno1021. By the way, happy B-day to all you vets. Big love, admiration and appreciation to you all! | ||
| Dreso1021 |
Thanx  | ||
| Painkiller |
You were right Dano. It was the rear master cylinder. Unfortunately, they said it'll be $70 just for the part. Labor, well lets just say I'm going to bring in the lube when I go to the shop to pay for it... Fricken H-D. Happy Veterans Day to Me! Thanks H-D! Bastards! | ||
| Dano_12s |
PK-glad they found the problem.The HI price may be that but here#H0205.1AM is $46.75,Might be the price for"living in paradise"HA! | ||
| Chevycummins |
My rear brake had the same problem a while ago, Erik Buell Racing helped me out with getting the master cylinder at a reasonable price. I would rather give Erik Buell Racing my money than the dealer. | ||
| Froggy |
I take it you aren't under warranty anymore? The retail price is $55 in the main 48 states, but I guess that being in Hawaii does have its disadvantages at times! | ||
| Painkiller |
Yeah, I got the "Paradise Price" I guess. Didnt even think about Erik Buell Racing having it. Wish I had. Only had a year on the warranty and its an '08 model. :'( Most of that time was spent somewhere other than where I could ride it. One more quirk, one more dollar. | ||
| Buelet |
My '08 1125R recently had the rear brake issue as well. I never noticed it dragging, but my wife told me on a couple rides that the brake light was on. I figured it was an electrical issue. I messed with it as we rode, but couldn't get the light to go off. (Would go off "own it's own" eventually...) Dealership replaced the entire rear brake system under warranty and said it looked like the rear pads had maybe even caught fire. The rear rotor was slightly bowl-shaped too. It must have been dragging for a long time & been getting progressively worse. The bike has never really wanted to turn very well. I left the dealership after they fixed it & it almost spooked me when I took my first turn. It was like the difference between old VS new tires. (Bike has around 7,000 miles on it now.) I also heard the brake howl twice on the same ride, just before dropping it off for service. | ||
| Puredrive |
lawsuit waiting to happen. Just imagine if the rear brake decides to poop while in a turn. | ||
| Painkiller |
Puredrive, I'm sure their lawyers would say my brakes stopped working because of my aftermarket grips. If they were Harley grips installed by a Harley Dealer the n there would be no issue with my bike. Oh and your stator problems? Because you ate running Diablo Corsa III's. If you were running what the Harleys run you stator would be fine! | ||
| Buelet |
FWIW: I doubt the rear brake is going to just lock up while riding. Stranger things have happened, but that doesn't seem to be how these isolated events have unfolded so far. I LOVE my Buells and was just sharing my experience with this issue. It's disappointing to see some take this info & run with it... Why is everyone so sue-happy? If anyone really thinks that their bike is that unsafe & unpredictable and is really that worried about something like that happening, then they should just get rid of it. ...as far as the aftermarket stuff voiding warranty. What I think is ridiculous about that, is that apparently that has been your experience more often than not. I've always been fortunate to have great servicing dealerships (for the most part) and that kind of crap is the farthest thing from my mind. That WOULD be infuriating! | ||
| 03fatboy |
I had a similar situation at about 3500 miles. Except I went to use my back brake and I couldn't move it it seized in the unclamped position. I got home and but a little a$$ behind it and has worked just fine since. |
