| Author | Message | ||
     Baggh |
The charging\clutch weep issues are well documented on this site. My 1125 has experienced all of these issues (Clutch weep fix 3 times... I de-noided it... stator replaced\harness upgrade and still losing battery power... etc). Not to get too Aristotle~ish with you but... No matter how much you love something if it continuously lets you down, with no fix in sight, eventually you just have to (or feel like) throwing in the towel on it. Recently I decided that I finally had enough. Over the past few weeks I have been working with my dealer for a trade\fix, HD customer service direct for a trade\fix, and even consulted a lawyer in regards to a Lemon Suit. All of which I didn't want to do.. I just wanted a fix to the charging issue cause I luv this bike (paid full price for mine.. 14K OTD). I will not bore you with all of the details discussed over the past couple of weeks. I will however share what seems to be *keeping my fingers crossed* not necessarily a fix but close. Riding with your High Beam OFF at all times seems to allow the bike's electrical system to operate properly. I did a test yesterday\today. I put my bike on a battery tender to fully charge it Monday night... with the battery fully charged and the Battery Voltage display selected on my bike I took off yesterday... Riding on a highway at a steady 4.5K RPM with the high beam OFF my voltage display stayed at 14.0~14.2. Keeping the bike at this RPM level I switched the High Beam ON. The Voltage quickly dipped to 13.1. During my ride I switched the high beam on\off to ensure accurate readings. The #'s stayed consistent. Riding on typical streets (red lights\stop signs\etc) with the High Beam OFF kept the Voltage display at about 13.5~14.0. Stopped at a light with the High Beam OFF read 12.6. Stopped with the High Beam ON dipped it to 12.4 (but at this time I was stopped for a short amount of time. I need a longer stop time to better gauge if 12.4 is accurate). I did not charge the battery last night... Today I rode and the Voltage display remained the same. After all is said and done it appears that riding with your High Beam OFF will keep the bike's electronics\charging operating properly. I relayed this info to the HD techs (who appear just as curious and passionate about finding a fix as we are). Hopefully they find a solution that will enable us to ride these bikes like you would any other bike\car\ect without any charging\breaking down issues. I can live with having to ride my bike without using the High Beam. That is a flaw that I can surely live with (although I would like it fixed). I am back to luvin my 1125CR. | ||
| Nukeblue |
i noticed this also! i almost have 1000 miles on my new baby & was getting worried after reading about the stator issues. but i like to ride with high beams on. and while riding i noticed the volts drop pretty quickly when the high beams are on. so i've changed my ways. i wonder if the people with failures like to ride with their high beams on?? this would be a good study | ||
| Baggh |
I have always run my bikes with the High Beam on during the day. Common sense, various literature, and even motorcycle courses preach that this is a good habit to improve safety by making you more visible. I currently run my 08' XB the same way and have never had a charging issue. For some reason the 1125 is finicky about using the High Beam. I would still like it fixed, and the HD service dept knows this, BUT... as I said... I could live with this issue. I had also let the HD service dept know that I had read on this site that the voltage regulator could be at fault and that installing elements from the '08 1125 electrical system could fix the problem. It seems as if only the '09\'10 models suffer from this charging issue. Hopefully we get an actual fix. I am curious, like yourself, if riding with the High Beam OFF will keep you from experiencing the stator issues that many of us had. I have 9,300 miles on mine. Stator\Harness installed at 6,500 miles. | ||
| Reducati |
after my harness upgrade (?), i put hid low beam in...i no longer have to use my high beam, and i believe the hid is a less draw on power as is...i have 4500 on my cr, with the original stator. | ||
| Tdiddy |
Does the 1125's low beam stay on when you switch on the highbeam? On the XB's the low and high bulbs are the same, if thats the case with the 1125's I'd swap the plugs to run the highs all the time. | ||
| Baggh |
yes... both lights stay on during high. hmmm... great suggestion Tdiddy. One thing I was thinking... you could ride the bike in Low all the time and turn on the highs when needed... you know... like you do with a car\truck whatever. stinks cause you generally want to ride with the highs on all the time by day but... well.. until there is an actual fix this may have to do...? | ||
| Nukeblue |
reducati, i'm curious where did you get the hid? i'd like to get something like that. the low beam on these things blow! | ||
| Reducati |
http://www.ddmtuning.com/ thinks it was like 35 bucks are so, and way...WAY better lighting | ||
| Daggar |
I have an 08 with HID kit installed. If I have my high beams on and heated grips, the battery light will come on for a few seconds while riding, but the volts eventually climb back up. At a stop, the volts have dropped to 11.5 and held steady. If I turn either the grips or high beams off, everything seems to be fine. EDIT: Oh, and I'm glad you love your bike again.  (Message edited by daggar on August 18, 2010) | ||
| 07xb12ss |
yellow 3000k HID low beam kit on a Red CR. I definitely get noticed during the day. even more so at night. no need for High beam except for flashing. | ||
| Baggh |
exactly which HID kit did you guys order? Is it basically plug n play orrrrrr is it an involved installation? Thanks in advance for any help. Daggar... me too... it has been a frustrating couple weeks. I hated umm.. hating my bike due to all these charging issues but... all is well once again *still keeping fingers crossed* | ||
| Bueller4ever |
HID is plug and play from ddmtuning.com. I got the 55w H7, 6k kit. I only use my high beams at night for brief periods when there is no oncoming traffic. During the day my HID low beam is more than enough to get the attention of other drivers. | ||
| Xnoahx |
Those DDM kits are very easy. I put a set of them on my car and it was a breeze. Once it starts getting dark earlier I will put a set on my 1125R | ||
| Nukeblue |
any idea if a 35w 6000 would be much brighter than the stock low beam? those kits look like just what i need! the 55w kit mentions not putting them in small light housings do to the heat. think the housing on a cr is too small? | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
nukeblue, I got that exact setup for my cr. A 35w 6k hid from ddm tuning for the low beam, I kept the stock high beam. I love it, the hid lights up the road, and it makes a huge difference! It is ALOT brighter then stock. It took me about 20 minutes to install it, but now that i have done one i could have done it in 5-10 minutes. | ||
| Pizzaboy |
After all is said and done it appears that riding with your High Beam OFF will keep the bike's electronics\charging operating properly. i could have told you that!! i made that mistake just once... and never ride long term with the high beam on. figured out that little trick back in '08 | ||
| Quetip |
If you guys could do it over again would you buy the 55watt kit instead of the 35?? I'm on the fence. Thanks! Alex | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
I have the 55w kit on my CR, I wouldn't go with the 35w FWIW... | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
Oh yeah and like people said, you might as well not do the hi beams on the CR....First of all the bike doesn't like, well hates, running with hi beams for more than 10 minutes it seems =/ plus you have to cut the hi beam locking ring to fit the HID's. So....just get the 55w 6000k or 8000k lo-beams and be happy. My 8000k 55w are pure white, in case you were wondering, no tint of blue really. | ||
| Baggh |
Thanks Pizzaboy... wish you would have told me that back in mid '09  I take it that staying on low beam will prevent any further charging issues then? I'm curious cause I just started doing this "no high beam" thing... no problems thus far. Charging system appears to be working perfectly. about the HID's... sounds like a great way of handling the need to use high beams. What I am curious about is are these HID's more of a draw on the electrical system than the standard bulb? If so then that would defeat the purpose given I am doing this whole "not using the high beam" to prevent using too much juice. | ||
| Froggy |
Yep! A stock 55w Halogen bulb put out around 1100 lumens, while a 35w HID bulb will put you around 3000 lumens. 55w HID bulbs are around 5000 lumens each.
By small housing, it means fog lights, not headlamps. It will be fine in the stock headlamp assembly. About this thing with the high beams, I run my highs on all the time, and never have an issue. | ||
| Jng1226 |
HIDs draw less current when running than OEM bulbs. How much, I'm not sure. They do require a much bigger spike in current to light the ballast though. IMHO, they provide so much better lighting it is ridiculous not to run them, especially when you can get a dual low-beam kit for much less than $100. My 55W HID kit are over 3400 lumens EACH, compared to something like 1200 lumens each or the stock halogen bulbs. The OEM reflectors are so well designed that the bike maintains a sharp cutoff that when adjusted properly will not blind oncoming traffic. Plus, the bike just looks so much cooler with them running:   It's been mentioned a bunch recently, but why doesn't everyone just get a $29.99 (or less at Cycle Gear with a coupon) Battery Tender Jr.? I never have voltage problems with mine after the harness upgrade (didn't have any before either). Every time I roll in to the garage I plug in the connector and forget about it. | ||
| Xtreme6669 |
Just ordered my 35w 5k kit. My bike has yet to have any issues and I have not yet had them put the harness kit in. | ||
| Baggh |
Thanks guys... from what I gather replacing the stock low beam with an HID is indeed plug n play (although the high takes some persuading). So if I get the HID I simply take it out of the box and plug into into my stock headlight assembly and done? It fits perfectly? No dremmel shaving or other misc handiwork required? | ||
| Froggy |
You need to cut a hole in the rubber boot behind the headlight in order to feed the wires, but thats the only "permanent" part of the installation. Good news is, if you somehow really destroy the boot, a new one is a couple bucks. | ||
| Dktechguy112 |
the boot has an indent right where you need to cut, all you do is follow the indent with an exacto knife, no big deal. | ||
| Codeman999 |
I want to get some hids for my 1125r. Has anyone had problems with the ddm kits little nervous about getting them because of the low price. Otherwise I was thinking of getting the kit from starroter. Also want to get some input on weather or not to get 55w 8000k or 35w 6000k or 8000k want to do both high and low. (Message edited by codeman999 on August 25, 2010) | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
Code, no problems with the DDM kits...I had some on my Mustang for a few years before I sold it, and have them on my CR right now. | ||
| Westmoorenerd |
Also just get the 55w 8000k low beams and be happy with a nice bright white beam. | ||
| Dbolemiss |
Anybody have a picture of what the yellow 3000k HID look like on a bike? I have a red R. 07xb12ss?? |
