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Bad_boy
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Need a full helmet.Been using a 3/4 for sometime now. Want one thats quiet,light and not so much pressure on my bad neck.
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Jng1226
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This thread will yield a tons of different opinions, as these kinds have before. Here's my recommendation based on your description:

http://www.akumahelmets.com/products_helmet_Phanto mIIMFR.php



This is one of the lightest helmets on the market at 3.0 lbs. Note that aerodynamics play a larger part in neck pain at higher speeds (highway and above) so in addition to being lighter than your current helmet, the superior aerodynamics of a full face may also make it "feel" lighter at speed and strain your neck less. Lastly, this comes with a photochromic visor using Transitions technology to go from clear to tint automatically.

An excellent independent review: http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/a kuma-phantom-2/

Good luck, there are tons and tons of choices - that's the good and bad thing. I couldn't decide, and I currently have 8 full-face helmets!
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Bahnzii
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Along the same lightweight theme, you should check out the review on WebBikeWorld of the NEXX. I'm considering picking one up:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet/n exx-xr1r-carbon/
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Spectrum
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have an Akuma Phantom II. Very light weight helmet, but I would not recommend it. The face shield doesn't seal and it gets lots of noise and wind inside the helmet.
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Jdugger
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buy the one that fits best and wear earplugs.
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Forerunner
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on the earplugs.

Nels
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99buellx1
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Love the Shark RSR's I've had.
Very light, very stable.
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Smoke4ndmears
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shark to me is the new Arai.

Love em.
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Xbud
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another +1 on the Shark RSR2 - The only noise I hear with earplugs is at excessive speeds and wierd head movements. I would imagine the same noise from other helmets in the same conditions.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Suomy rocks.

R
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shark rsr2.
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bad boy....what's your budget?
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My shoei is awesome because it fits my head correctly. As for noise better than any other I've worn but not dead quiet either.
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Stevasaurus
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With all of the Shark-talk on this thread, I thought I would chime in. I CANNOT vouch for my RSI being quiet, because the Shoei and Icon helmets I had before it allowed much less wind noise. The light weight and build quality on the Shark makes it still my daily helmet, along with earplugs.

Would I like my Shark to be more quiet? Yes. Is it a showstopper? No.

YMMV . . .
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Redbuell1203
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my opinion is to just go to a shop and try them all on and ear plugs are also personal preference.
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Puredrive
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.surefire.com/EP6-SignatureSeries

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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2010 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're RSI is a mid price point helmet. The rsr2 is super quiet, super light, flows a decent amount of air and the best visor and visor system on the market.

The above are my opinions, but several reviews such as on webbikeworld.com and sportbiketrackgear.com back it up. Stg and a few others are clearing out some of the rsr2 models at super prices.
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scorpion EXO-700's are great and on sale for $130 at many places online.
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Blur
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In my experience there will be a trade off between quiet and light. My Suomy is pretty light be in return its noisy. It ventilates pretty nicely but you hear it.

My Shoei is a little heavier but not as noisy.

They are both equally comfortable but I like my Suomy more. I always wear ear plugs when I ride so the noise factor isn't that big of a deal for me.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The best helmet is the one that fits. Quiet is secondary - that's what ear plugs are for. Try them on since they all use different head models for the form. One may squeeze you differently than another.

You just have to try them on.

Price shouldn't be a driver, and as articles elsewhere have shown, paying more doesn't always get you "better" - but trust me, getting a helmet that might be "a little bit" tight and thinking you can get used to it will BITE you after a couple hours riding.

Try them on (I think I said that before)
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Donaldb
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You should also make sure you add ventilation needs to your requirement list behind fit. IMO the best fitting and ventilation is Shoei, ride with ear plugs and IPOD and then you don't have to worry about quiet. But as others have indicated your budget will prevail.

donald
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Schuberth, Schuberth or Schuberth are the lightest and quietest helmets on the market pretty much. They are also incredible quality (No accident that a lot of F1 drivers wear Schuberth helmets either) If you can't get a Schuberth then a BMW (Made by Schuberth) is probably the next bet when it comes to quietness/weight/safety.

There is a very true saying when it comes to helmets...'If you have a five dollar head buy a five dollar helmet' so don't skimp on 'economy' helmets.

(Message edited by trojan on September 06, 2010)
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One thing - CHEAP helmets aren't worth considering. The difference in safety between a $50 and $200 helmet is HUGE. The difference between a $200 and $700 helmet may be more subtle.
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Jng1226
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Slaughter, I have to disagree with your statement. As long as a helmet meets whatever standards you believe are important (Snell M2010, D.O.T., BSI, ECE-2205, etc.) then you have done the most that you can do. Each manufacturer has to submit samples (sometimes randomly) to the testing organizations and pass the same tests in order to receive their approval. The U.K. government came out with their own testing scheme and have a rating on every helmet sold in the UK. They have a great website that will inform you about fit and you can check on how your helmet did in the tests here (Shark RSR2s achieved the top 5-star rating): http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/

Most helmet construction is the same, EPS (expanded Polystyrene) shell with an outer shell either of injection-molded plastic or weaved of a composite structure (Kevlar, Carbon-fiber, etc.). Only a few companies such as Shark and Suomy have internal structures specifically designed to act as "crumple-zones". Mostly everything else is exactly the same protection by design, the cost differences are due to paint, liner materials, and mostly, MARKETING DOLLARS spent.

I recommended the Akuma based on weight and features, considering what Bad_boy logged as his chief complaints. When I personally go to the track, I wear either of my 2 Shark RSR2's or my RSX (exactly the same shell as the RSR2 with different ventilation), even though they are heavier than my lighter carbon fiber helmets. No wonder Shark has been so highly recommended on this thread, smart folks here.

Bad_boy still hasn't replied with more detailed questions such as budget, but if I were to revise my recommendation based on budget and protection I would point him in the direction of the new Bell Vortex. Snell M2010-approved (the latest helmet standard which supposedly is a significant improvement in impact testing) and only $169-$189 depending upon graphics:



Shark RSI's have a similar differentiated-density (crumple zone-type) construction to the top-of-the-line RSR2 and you can find these for $99 on closeout.
As was wisely pointed out by several above, make sure the helmet fits properly, most manufacturer's website have their own statements of how to gauge a proper fit, which is absolutely essential to maximum protection.
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Buell77
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one that fits the best. They make helmets in different shapes. I have a HJC carbon fiber helmet and i like it but it doesn't fit as well as it should. I have a long oval head shape. I think the Arai Profile is best for this head shape or so I've been told. On Arai's website they tell you which of their helmets work with the different head shapes.
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Buellsruell
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My next helmet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAwYNRiz-T4

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/396/5743/Motorcycle-Article/Icon-Variant-Etched-Helmet-Review.aspx

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wjRDV78AkgU/TAMo5e0rOoI/AAAAAAAAArw/vgBHH-Z28to/s1600/01014776.jpeg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wjRDV78AkgU/TAMo5EDX8XI/AAAAAAAAAro/IM7oPcYE5aY/s1600/01014776a.jpeg

(Message edited by BuellsRuell on September 06, 2010)
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Smoke4ndmears
Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chiming back in with the helmets I own:

Arai Profile -quiet, fairly plush and super stable. adequate ventilation without alot of air movement in the face. great head shape for my long oval head but not long enough for my long oval jaw. pretty much a quantum/f with a different head shape.

Arai Quantum/f -see above.

2010 Bell Star (Day of the Dead) I bought this helmet solely for the paint scheme and received an awesome race helmet to boot. Stable, but not that quiet and very ventilated. Easy to remove windscreen, very comfortable and roomy. More people should be wearing these things!

2010 Icon Hi-Vis. Bought for my morning pre-dawn commute. Some serious bang for the buck! Keeps the wind noise down better than any of my other helmets up to about 60mph. Fits my long face perfectly and is overall a great product. Reflective bits are not so reflective unfortunately. Definitely a try before you by due to Icons 'bold' interpretation of the long oval.
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