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Cme2c
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geoff May finishes 6th at VIR in Sunday's race!! WooHoo Buell!!!!!
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

YEAH!!!
I saw the Saturday race yesterday, it looked like he had tech difficulties. He had to get his backup bike at the beginning of the race, it cost him like 30 seconds, so he never had a chance to make it up to the top. It was my first time watching ama, and i was bummed because Geoff May wasn't really in it. I can't wait to watch today's race!
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Imonabuss
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dktech,

Over on Erik Buell Racing Facebook it says that yesterday Geoff crashed on the warm-up lap, and had to get on his backup bike. Left the pits more than a lap down and still got 14th!

Can't wait to watch the race on Speed tonight!
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, the camera panned to Geoff May after he wrecked, he was running in his leathers and jumped over a fence to get to the pits to get his backup bike.
I didn't know that the 1125 was racing against the jap 1000's, and i wanted to see how the buell stacked up. It was still a fun race to watch, very exciting ending too.
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Eweaver
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I understand your excitement, but it is proper etiquette to put the results inside the thread and put "spoiler alert" in the title. I had to tape the races to watch later tonight, and unfortunately have had the ending ruined for me.
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the spoiler buddy. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. Most people who give a crap are waiting for Speed to show the races tape delayed.
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Christaylor
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Guess I can go to bed early tonight,
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Jng1226
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Definitely should announce a spoiler if the race hasn't been broadcast yet.

I'm watching the race right now and Speed gave great coverage of his little dice with Taylor Knapp (GSXR-1000) in the early laps. They showed Knapp gap May on the front straight, only to have May glide past modulating his ZTL2 front brake into Turn 1!

So for all those bitching and moaning about the ZTL2 not having enough "performance", get the Erik Buell Racing race setup and STFU!

Seriously impressed with the Erik Buell Racing 1125RR. To be that competitive with a non-bored out motor is a real accomplishment. Of course Geoff May is an integral part of that package, but what a team they make! BTW - Larry Pegram and the Ducati 1098R was cruising around in 12th place...
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 02:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah i just watched it, the announcers actually talked about Geoff May for a while. They were impressed that he was able to keep up with the 1000's, because the 1000's were pulling in the straights, but he would zing back up in the corners. If he could be on an 1190 it would be over.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

with the 1190 there would be no competition,youd have the handling AND the power...itd be like the mladin era all over again...the 1190 is already pullin faster lap times across sea's than WORLD and AMERICAN superbike...its an ANIMAL!!!

Jake
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 04:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

very impressive race and some great TV time. Buell conspiracy theory over. Amazing when you are close to the front and providing the closest racing, Speed actually pays attention!

I was very impressed how well the Buell was able to hang on with Knapp and Zemke (eventually getting by Zemke.) I usually am pretty hard on Scott Russell, but he did make the same comment. Although he had to follow it up with the Hardley comment and *speculate* the Buell was down on HP like he wasn't 100% sure.

And Geoff May continues to get better and better (we will have to forgive him for crashing on the warmup lap.) It was pretty cool to see him get on the gas much earlier out of the corners and leap right up the tailpipe of the literbike in front of him. Nice!
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i thought it was funny when they were talkin about how knapps suzuki was running really good and talkin up yoshi and everything and may was right on his @$$ the entire race! and it doesnt have the horsepower of knapps bike but it definetly hangs with it the TECHNICAL stuff..may is a great rider and the buell is a great bike, and once the horsepower gets put on par with everyone else the sky will be the limit!!

Jake
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Bsdfool
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 06:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I spoke with Geoff before the race on Sunday and he told me that the crash on the warm up lap Saturday was due to front brake failure. He still finished 14th.

It was an exciting race on Sunday and I was happy to see Geoff finish 6th.
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Maul
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott Russell is still living in the past. His comment about the Buell being like the Harley he rode "back in the day," shows his ignorance. There is nothing about the Buell that even resembles that piece if shit he rode back then. Go Erik and the rest of the team. It is only a matter of time before Erik Buell Racing is up front on a regular basis.
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Spank
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't worry, I think they only people actually watching these races on tv are us Buell fans.
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Jng1226
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you kidding? The Superbike races can be a bit boring now and then (except Saturday's thrilling finish), but the Daytona Sportbike series is the best motorcycle racing on TV right now, neck and neck with Moto2 for close racing, tons of passing and balls-out maneuvers. That's how racing should be, not this traction-control managed, who-spends-more-money wins BS (MotoGP, AMA Superbike, and now WSBK is quickly becoming this way).

After Sunday's MotoGP race, I don't know if I'll watch another MotoGP event until they get rid of traction control. They are just plain BORING and look like parade laps by the end of the race with 5-10 second gaps between all the riders. Plus, if you look at the lap times at the tracks that MotoGP and WSBK go to, the WSBKs are only 1-2 seconds off the pace of the "Unobtanium" MotoGP pieces of crap. Ben Spies talks up MotoGP because he makes a crapload more money at it, IMHO.
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Spank
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't say they weren't exciting to watch...Just as long as you turn the sound off!! The coverage sucks and I think Scott is partially retarded.

Besides the point, if they were being watched by so many people, why is it on at 10 or 11??

...and yes I might be kidding! Take it easy!!
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Cme2c
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry, didn't realize. Won't make that mistake again. Again, my apologies.
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Jng1226
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Spank, no aggression intended!

I agree with your comments. I've actually been on track with Scott Russell and even though he does sound like a backwoods hillbilly, he can ride UNBELIEVABLY! Pretty decent guy too, except when he hit on some dudes girlfriend at Razzles nightclub before a Daytona 200 and got his jaw broke...

Freddie Spencer was the best color commentator Speed has had in recent memory, too bad he had other priorities. Greg White is quite knowledgeable as well, but when he's the main commentator he tries too hard to inject "excitement".

The absolute ABOMINATION is Ralph Shaheen. He's a completely ignorant car guy and asks the dumbest questions, while exposing his own ignorance of our sport and industry. I guess Speed wants this angle to attract "new" viewers. However, motorcycle racing has always been the domain of the hardcore enthusiast and to most of us it just sounds plain dumb.
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Spank
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scott Russell is an amazing rider, but thats about where his talents end! I would rather see Greg White be the main commentator and then just bring in some sort of guest. Guess I just miss the old days when it was on earlier and seemed to be run better. I think they always had a problem with just watching the leader though and crappy replays...
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

he told me that the crash on the warm up lap Saturday was due to front brake failure. He still finished 14th.

Sounds like someone forgot to pump up the front brake?

14th was last place among the race finishers.}
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Jng1226
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

14th was last place among the race finishers

Ouch, the truth hurts!

Good point, is does sound like Geoff took it for granted that his crew pumped up the front brake after swapping wheels. For him not to do it reflexively after leaving the pits is curious though. Bet he doesn't do that again!

At least its not like the Eddie Lawson 500cc GP crash where a tech forgot to secure his brake pads and he had to lay the bike down at over 140 and still hit a wall - yikes!
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

actually It would be hard to believe that he would not have discovered that as he stopped in his box prior to the warm up lap
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Jetbuilder
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the problem with the brake was an unknown progressive failure. I spoke with one of the crew and he said the brake was failing by turn 3/4 and went out completely before Geoff could make it back around too the pits
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Avalaugh
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is there any way i can watch these races in the United Kingdom ?
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Peyote
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

imo, the exposure geoff may & team gave the bike on sunday more than made up for the odd exit saturday. 6th is very respectable.

as much as they misquoted the buell, they mostly talked highly & said it was pretty incredible what they've done with little time to test. they also talked about how stable the 1125rr was through the turns.
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Anonymous
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The facts, directly from Geoff, are that no one forgot to pump up the brake, and it did not slowly deteriorate. In fact it worked perfectly for 3/4 of the warm-up lap and then the lever came totally to the bar, and didn't come back even when Geoff pumped it. Geoff threw the bike away to avoid taking Pegram out. It happened once before, but now we figured out what it was, a bizarre sequence of events related to components on the $1000 racing master cylinder. It is fixed now.
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J2blue
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Nony! ; )
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Lucky_jim
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>> The absolute ABOMINATION is Ralph Shaheen. He's a completely ignorant car guy and asks the dumbest questions, while exposing his own ignorance of our sport and industry. I guess Speed wants this angle to attract "new" viewers. However, motorcycle racing has always been the domain of the hardcore enthusiast and to most of us it just sounds plain dumb.

I actually like Ralph Shaheen's commentary. And yes I'm a new viewer. But I don't mind the dumb questions. He plays a lot off Scott Russell's experience.

Calling him an abomination is really extreme, does he bother you that much? lol. The only commentator I'd use that word for is the British WSBK guy. Pretty much the most annoying voice in the universe, and he never says anything worthwhile.
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Eweaver
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I prefer my motorsports announced with an Australian or English accent.

Shaheen should stick to Nascar.
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