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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As stated earlier, I don't think this has anything to do with oil.
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Usanigel
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like a tooth off the gears, better picture please. Lack of oil would not help with this but dino or syn would not make a difference to this part breaking. You may have a bent selector fork allowing two gears to be selected at once and this is really good at breaking gear teeth off!
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Zacks
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like engagement dog pieces to me. If so, not likely to be covered using the old 'rider abuse' reasoning.
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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Up to this point the trany shifted ultra smooth. No issues at all. The pieces are very small. The black line on the paper is about the size a Sharpie felt pen would make.
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Zacks
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going by a broken tranny in an old GS550 I had. Well, mine wasn't bad, but we had three into the dealer I worked at within about 5 weeks. Theirs didn't shift at all into 2nd, mine would pop out under load. There's only a couple of little pieces of metal sliding the gears together. As stated by someone else, a bent shift fork is usually the start. Won't fully engage the gears. Then they either get rounded off or snap.
Having said all that, someone will probably tell me that there's 8 dogs/gear in Buells and they're undercut as well and made out of unobtainium. In which case, I defer.
But, they still look to me like little pieces of a gear dog.
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D_adams
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go & go traffic, hahaha!

Guess you were on the track at the time then?
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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I deny any of the viscous rumors circulating that I was or ever have been on the track with this particular bike.
Droping it off at the dealer tomorrow.

(Message edited by rodrob on August 17, 2010)
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Jng1226
Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good luck man! Keep us updated.
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Highlander51
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rob, are you taking it to Simi Harley? If you are, I'll be interested how it goes.
I've got a stator nut coming loose and have been wondering how good the Buell tech's are there. If not is Glendale a better choice?
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Rodrob
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 02:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going to Bartel's where I bought it. Mitsu, the Buell guy there, knows these bikes upside down and backwards. He built and maintained Higbee's race bike when he rode for the Bartel's team. Even the guys from Glendale told me to take it to Mitsu.
Stator nut is a pretty easy fix. But can do major damage if it comes loose. I would get that done ASAP at the closest place to you.
Race guys from Glendale, Antelope Valley as well as Higbee have made a point to warn me that this is a known issue and to have it checked.
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Redduck124
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 04:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess I should have made my statement a bit clearer, and someone else also made the same observation. What I meant was that constantly bouncing the motor off the rev limiter flexes the rods. Hitting the limiter before shifting is one thing, but holding it on the limiter is what I was talking about. I've heard that from several reputable sources when I was racing and unless there's been a big improvement in the metallurgy I don't know of, I think it still applies.
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Highlander51
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the tip Rob, I did not know about Mitsu. I need to swap out my race ECM so I can take it in. Sounds like I better do I now. Good luck with yours.

Mike
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Fresnobuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the stator nut fix as easy as:

Remove stator cover
Tighten stator nut to 300 ft. lbs.
Re-install stator cover

Never seen a pic of this stator nut so not sure if it's right there under the cover and easy to get at.

Something to consider at the next oil change if so.
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Daggar
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's right under the cover, but you'll have to have a way to prevent the rear wheel from turning. The nut is 32mm.
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Davegess
Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2010 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mitsu is every bit as good as everyone says; perhaps better.
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Rodrob
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well I went over to Mitzu this morning. The news is not good. Ate an intake valve. The valve cover is cracked from the keeper flying around. The valve is jammed in the guide and is probably bent, so the piston is most likely damaged. ARRRGH!
Now the factory weighs in...
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J_copeland
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like a 2010 motor upgrade candidate.
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Bott
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2010 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sucked an intake valve on my 09 in May. Keeper broke. 3000 miles on it, no warning,running at about 8k. Three months later, I have a 2010 motor in it-warranteed. The valve head actually broke off and was partially embedded in the piston.
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Bartimus
Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep us posted !!
do the 2010 motors have a different stator?
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Jbarron
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got a 2010 motor and it acts like every post I've read on the stator issue. Idle it drops down to low 12's. Motor does hold more oil so maybe it cools the stator better.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2010 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everything related to the charging system is the same on 2010's as it is on 2009's. The increased oil capacity has to do with the sight glass, not stator.
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