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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I cross threaded one of the seat bolt holders, the part that the seat bolt goes into. I ordered the seat retention kit from AL at American Sport Bike, and i have it here, but i need to fix the threads before i can install the seat retention kit.
I talked to AL and he told me what to get, but i can't remember what it was. I think it was a tap. Any advice on what i should use to fix the threads? I am sure i am not the only one to do this.
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Mtch
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you might be able to retap the thread (6MM) or its just a rivet nut inserted in a similar way to a pop rivet (dont know if its called something else in the U.S)
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's aluminum....just tap it, remember to use plenty of oil, don't force it, when you feel enough resistance back it all the way out to clear the shavings...should take no longer than 2-3 minutes.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the replies. I have never tapped a bolt hole before. What do you mean when you say use lots of oil?
And what type of tap should i get for it?
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Ccryder
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Devin:
If you are anywhere close to American Sport Bike let Al help you. Or see if one of the Buelligans in you area can help. Those rivet nuts can screwed up more quickly. They can also be replaced even faster if you have the installation tool.
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am about 30 miles from American Sport Bike, i didn't know that he worked on bikes. Does he have the installation tool for the rivnuts?
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Ron_luning
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2010 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just bring that seat retention pin to a decent hardware store and ask them what kind of thread it is. Then buy a tap to match. You then tap the hole out by turning the tap forward/backward over and over again. You can probably find good instructions here on the information superhighway...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A "tap" is a screw that cuts threads back into a nut that is stripped.

A "die" cuts new threads into a screw that is stripped.

Go to a hardware store. Run a die down the screw till you find the one that fits. Buy the tap that matches it.

Use oil. Remember, the tap is *cutting metal* as it goes. Run it in till it starts to bind up; back it out some, spray some oil, run it in some more. And out. And back in until you don't have any resistance.
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Westmoorenerd
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

DK...Rat's way of sizing works great, and like he mentioned again, use oil! Any kind of oil will work in reality, but there should be some kind of specialty oil near the taps. Or just use WD-40, that's what I do.
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Mtch
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

this is a 6mm tap.the tool is simply the easy way to use the tap, a small adjustable spanner will do fine.

a good tool shop should have them. that or maybe a friendly bike shop could do it for you.

lots of oil, to help lubricate the tap as it cuts(most oils will do except cooking oil LOL)

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Motorhead102482
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you should be able to buy this from just about any automotive store ie autozone, napa, anything like that.
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Al_lighton
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As shown in that picture, you want to use a bottoming tap, not a plain tap, to clear that hole.

Bring it by if you'd like, it'd only take me a few minutes to fix it. But don't come on a monday, we're swamped on mondays.

Al
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Dktechguy112
Posted on Monday, August 16, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks for the offer al, i think i will take you up on that offer. I will try and stop by later this week.

American Sport Bike is the best!
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Cutty72
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, so my problem is a little more complex. The rivnut is now spinning within the subframe, so I can't get the bolt out. Any ideas?
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