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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone tried a global enrichment (via EcmSpy) on E-B-R's (one size fits all) race Ecm yet? If you can decipher hexadecimal and have a general idea of where to look I don't think it would be that hard to adjust for an open air box mod with more fueling.

Modding the airbox to allow more cool air (and solving some harmonic issues) doesn't address the fact that the engine will run a little lean without richening up the map a few points. Anyone? Anyone?
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Trafford
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ECM read and Tunerpro
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you running a wideband O2 sensor setup or some other form of monitoring that's telling you you're running lean? Yes, ecmspy would allow you to globally adjust the afv's, but unless you know for a fact that you're running lean in every throttle position, why would you want to mess with it? I know exactly how mine runs because I do have a wideband setup.
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Highscore
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where are the WB-probes located?
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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No I do not have a wide band 02 set up. I wish I did. I can't qualitatively judge my air to fuel ratio. I can however hypothesize that more air will require more fuel.

Straightline performance benchmarks (at the drag strip) is my prefered testing method. In some respects this is more accurate than a dyno due to the bike being operated in a manner for which it was designed (thus eliminating dyno specific error variables - such as hot rad air blowing inwards from the fans).

I figure if the E-B-R Ecm is calibrated perfectly in terms of timing and relative fuel values but a 'global' air increase (by way of an air box mod) might benefit from a global fuel enrichment (say by 1-5 AFV points).
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Drawkward
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

T_man: I think you're correct. This is why I haven't permanently changed my intake setup yet. I need a cheap laptop to get ECMread and TunerPro out to the garage.
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Highscore, I installed a set of plx devices sensors in place of the standard narrowband ones, it was about $600 for the whole setup. They don't come that way stock. They're similar to the innovate stuff.

T_man -- I would ask ebr about the global adjustments before changing things in a race ecm.

(Message edited by d_adams on June 23, 2010)
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Curve_carver
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 08:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The hmf calibration I'm using needed some adjustments made. It surged but felt really strong on the top.
The idle was really shaky and would stall here and there. 1250-1300 is just too low in imho.
I disabled the 02s and added 5% more globally. It's so much smoother now.

I had a hard time popping a wheelie in second. Now its effortless.
I would recommend to everyone to add just a little more fuel. Look at the outlets on your exhaust . Mine was white/ brown looking. That's when I looked into tunerpro . By far a awesome tool!! Overall I think the ECM was the best thing I bought for my R.
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T_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bingo Curve_Carver! Thats what I was looking for - someone who HAD actually tweaked it.. to suit their particular setup. And a SOTP performance gain to boot - good job.. Thanks for the useful info!
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Curve_carver
Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any info needed just pm me.
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Xbud
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I disabled the 02s and added 5% more globally.

How did you add 5% more globally? Did you use the "Global Fuel Correction" in TunerPro? Or did you enhance the maps seperately by 5%? Just curious on what method, I am still trying to figure TunerPro out.

Thanks.}
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Xbud
Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nevermind, I figured it out : )
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