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Craiga
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 01:04 am: | 
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There's a difference between learning to ride correctly, ie both brakes, and those of us (me) who have been recently riding with only the front due to the "howl" and vibration in the rear brakes. I will be changing my pads BACK to OEM soon from the EBC's, hopefully this is the remedy. To any one that questions it, I have been riding with 99% front brake and engine braking but if the circumstances come, hopefully not, muscle memory will kick in and both with be applied...no endoooooo's please/howl or not. |
Foxy
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 12:02 pm: |
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if a bend tightens up too much a touch on the back break keeps the bike level without upsetting the steering geometry.
I personally use the back brake a lot, especially when i just want to set the bike up for a bend.
That little back brake has saved my life many a time. If i want to lay the bike down in an accident situation i know i can do it. Now, front brake, thatsssss a different story. How many are skilled enough or have the balls to lock it up before there on their ar** |
Colintornado
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 12:38 pm: |
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Going back to the original howl problem,my benelli tornado and also several others suffered the same thing.The reason for the howl was one of the rear caliper pistons sticking.I removed and cleaned pads etc at 1st and this cured only for a short time,eventually I found the sticky piston,pumped them out cleaned with a rag and drop of fluid,then checked both free and no problem since.
The rear brake although has little stopping power has 3 big benefits especially running fast leaned into a tightening corner,1) it will squat the front 2) it will push out the rear, both of these will turn you tighter and 3) it will scrub just enough speed to allow 1 and 2 to get you round the bend !(or maybe I`ve just been lucky ?) |
No_rice
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 04:40 pm: |
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its just funny how no one ever asks any questions of the person. they just instantly tell them they ride incorrectly if it is different then how they would do it.
and i have plenty of hammers. they do alot of things very well...
but normal everyday riding puts me on lots of loose stuff. sand, dirt, gravel all on top of the street, way to much of which is in what could be decent corners(for this area). grrr.
honestly i could care less if someone even has a back brake on THEIR bike. although i do know a certain webbed crawler that would have loved to have one when his throttle stuck and he t-boned some electra glides front wheel in the air... no rear brake on the bike. odds are it wouldnt have prevented it, but it sure as hell wouldnt have hurt. 
it just becomes annoying when someone says that their way is better then anyone elses especially when they have no knowledge of the circumstances...
you know racers and fast riders that you say only use the front. i know racers and fast riders that say they use both.
all depending on what they are doing just as it does for i and many others.
such is life. |
Foxy
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 06:35 pm: |
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I thought the website was about the love of bikes. i don't recall anyone here saying there way was better. Since you've got plenty of hammers why not nail it shut. |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 06:53 pm: |
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Front wheel wasn't in the air. There was a pic of the skid marks, one of the locked up front and one of the spinning rear... |
No_rice
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 07:32 pm: |
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damn i thought it was a lil. still...
nothing like bowling with bikes |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:39 pm: |
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FYI
I gave my rear brake for a guy who came back from Iraq on 2 weeks leave and his rear brake was shot and the dealer wouldn't see him at all. |
Bartimus
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 08:58 pm: |
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I just heard my first howls yesterday while out for a ride.
It kind of scairt me as I was coming down a pretty steep mountain road at a very good clip.
Only thing I can think of, is it must be carbon build up coming from the exhaust, on the pads or disc...
This is on my 1125CR, I don't have any problems with my XB or my S2 doing this.
I know dust or dirt on the pads can cause this, I'm just making an assumption, that perhaps the exhaust being aimed directly at the disc and caliper, perhaps this is the cause,,, |
Steve899
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 10:42 pm: |
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No rice , you got a good pt there, there is no one right way to ride a bike. That is true. ex. how many fingers to use on the ft brake, most road racers use two inside finger, some use one, I use the three outside fingers, Valentino Rossi uses all 4.
you know what, if it works for you go for it. because in the end your the one riding the bike. |
No_rice
| | Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2010 - 11:39 pm: |
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FYI
I gave my rear brake for a guy who came back from Iraq on 2 weeks leave and his rear brake was shot and the dealer wouldn't see him at all.
i always wondered why that was gone!
Steve, agreed |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 07:53 am: |
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Well I have never experienced this problem (the Howl, not BadWeb BB Bickering )until last night. It startled me...first time I thought it was a train whistle, then I figured out what it was. I'm going to hose down the pads with CRC Brake Cleaner and see if it goes away. Seems odd that it only happened for the first time last night.
The only outstanding factor about last night was it had been a hot day and was fairly warm still, but no hotter than it was this time last year. Odd.
And just to join the useless bickering, I favor the front brake but I use both brakes together most of the time. I live on a mountain and travel a mile downhill on gravel to reach the main road. I still use both brakes to slow my descent. Back brake alone will just lock the wheel and put me into an accellerating and uncontrollable slide toward whichever ditch is on the short side of the road's camber. Not fun. Obviously it takes some skill to run the front brake on gravel. Not Racer X levels of skill though.
The front brake on the Buells is so good and has so much feedback and feel I think anyone that pays proper attention to the process would be able to do it
I have locked up the front brake a few times trying to avoid the unexpected obstacle (deer, car running red light) and as long as you have the bike balanced in a straight line and keep it that way and let off the front brake you will survive. May require a change of underwear, but you can ride through it. Slamming on the front brake can also slam you on the ground and send you spinning like a rolling pin. WHich might be why I use both brakes most of the time. |
Mountainstorm
| | Posted on Friday, May 28, 2010 - 09:58 am: |
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I just inspected the rear brakes and found the outboard pad has a ton of play. The inboard pad pretty much stays tight to the piston, but the outboard pad wiggles freely. If you are getting the howl take a look at that situation. I am going to take the caliper off and have a look at the clip on the outboard pad to see what happened. |
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